Featured Lordship Salvation VS Easy Believism

And here we go again

 

He too is always starting the same threads over and over again

I’ll let you explain that to God

you seem to be unteachable, I’m sure that He might get through to you and possibly Zane and others of your ilk

 

Matthew 7:21-23
Versus
Matthew 11:29-30.

 

Lordship Salvation speaks to the fact that as believers, true believers, will always make Jesus their Lord. This is NOT a works based salvation. It is an EVIDENCE of salvation.

 

I'm sure we agree on a lot of things.

 

I haven't watched the video. But that is not what JM believes. JM says repentance comes as a result. Those who are truly saved, true believers, will repent from their sin.

 

John MacArthur teaches this also.

 

There's a pile of self-righteousness in that clip there. What a miserable comfort for the trembling sinner. If I wanted someone to despair of any hope of salvation, I'd send him to this guy.

He tells them to look into themselves for assurance of salvation like the Pharisee praying in the Temple:

God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.​

Who can pray thus except blind men? It's a horrible trap to be in for those not so blind . . . knowing the wretchedness of the heart, yet being told their works are the source of their assurance. What child of God wouldn't try to do more and more good thinking that soon their doubts, due to the honest appraisal of the sin in his heart, may finally be dispersed? A slave indeed, not to God, but to his sin.

One must be pointed always to Christ, and His finished work on the Cross. And assurance, Paul told us, comes from the witness of the Holy Spirit.

When Satan tempts me to despair
And tells me of the guilt within
Upward I look and see Him there
Who made an end to all my sin.

Because the sinless Savior died,
My sinful soul is counted free
For God the just is satisfied
To look on Him and pardon me.

 

Just imagine, John Macarthur began the Lordship salvation movement.

 

I have a burning question how does a DEAD man repent?... Brother Glen

 

John Owen taught that inherent within saving faith is the understanding that Jesus is Lord, and an intention to obey him. Most classical Calvinists believed that repentance is either found with faith or is another way of defining an aspect of saving faith.

The idea that looking to your conduct and manner of life as being an important way to check to see if your faith is real is also taught by almost all the old Calvinist Puritans. MacArthur's books on Lordship salvation are good and of course there is Paul Washer's "Shocking Youth Message " on You Tube.

Aaron's point is right too in that we can go too far in any direction. God really is handing out pardons, even to the worst sinners, and we really do just throw ourselves on his mercy. And I speak only for myself but I bet all of us who claim Lordship salvation is true would have to admit that there are plenty of areas of our own lives that do not put Jesus as Lord. The man who stood afar off and said "Lord be merciful to me a sinner" did not need to hear about Lordship salvation at that time. But the rich young ruler did - and Jesus gave him a quick lesson in it.