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Featured Why do so many Christians confuse verses about the Rapture and the Second Coming?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by AVL1984, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    The question can only be answered in light of beliefs concerning a 1000 year earthly reign.

    It’s like stating, “let’s have a conversation about rain but don’t say anything about clouds or water”.

    But, I will bow out of the conversation to respect the OPs wishes.

    peace to you
     
  2. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    I am not saying Daniel was confused, just that the extra 45 days could be time for us and having earth reset up after Second Coming!
     
  3. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    You mean the OP can't be answered accurately unless one believes in both a rapture and a second coming (naturally, followed by a millennium). :Biggrin
    Thanks for your graciousness.
     
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    percho Well-Known Member
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    There has been great tribulation on the earth. Still also in the future unto the time of Jacob's trouble for three and a half tears, then------

    IMHO this is the next appearing of Christ.

    because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, 1 Thes 4:16
    And this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood the reign of God is not able to inherit, nor doth the corruption inherit the incorruption; lo, I tell you a secret; we indeed shall not all sleep, and we all shall be changed; in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, in the last trumpet, for it shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we -- we shall be changed: for it behoveth this corruptible to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality; 1 Cor 15:50-53
    then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be; 1 Thes 4:17
    And Jesus said to them, 'Verily I say to you, that ye who did follow me, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man may sit upon a throne of his glory, shall sit -- ye also -- upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel; Matt 19:28
    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:4,6
    and didst make us to our God kings and priests, and we shall reign upon the earth.' Rev 5:10
    beloved, now, children of God are we, and it was not yet manifested what we shall be, and we have known that if he may be manifested, like him we shall be, because we shall see him as he is; 1 John 3:2

    And just for the record I believe 1 John 3:2 is relative to 1 Cor 13:10-12 The next appearing, the manifestation of Christ in when, the perfect is come, also to them who are, in Christ.
     
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    I guess I would say I am post trib, pre mil. then NHNE Eph 1:10.
     
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