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I am actually amazed at what I can only see as a type of depravity.

I understand disagreements and even divisions among Christians. But I have never before encountered such a group that ignores pleas to seek out God's Word.

I'm not a betting man but this time I'll wager $50 that @Iconoclast is going to post a series of Scripture you and I affirm (probably in multi-colors and large fonts) and then claim the "proper understanding of Scripture" is something completely foreign to the text of Scripture he quotes. (In reality, I'm not really sure that'd count as a bet).

 

The Law requires that men who sin be condemned. Thankfully Scripture speaks of the righteousness of God manifested apart from the Law.

Men must be born again, die to the flesh, and be made alive in the Spirit (a new creation).

What sins do you believe the Spirit has committed?

 

1 Peter 2:23–24 and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously;
24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.


This is the issue, @Iconoclast.

You say I am wrong to claim that "Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross". You call me unbiblical....you say it is error.


BUT....this is EXACTLY WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS!!!!!

You just believe it is not what Scripture "teaches".

 

Isaiah 53:4 Yet He Himself bore our sicknesses, and He carried our pains; but we in turn regarded Him stricken, struck down by God, and afflicted.

You are confused here. Scrioture is mot talking about our colds, stomach aches, and coronaviruses.

What Isaiah refers to as "our sickness" or "infirmaty" is our bondage under the consequences of sin and death. Paul says the same in Hebrews.

 

Ok....OK.... you are making a fool of yourself.

I say Christ bore our sins in His body. You say this is my error - that Scripture doesn't say that. I give you the verse I was quoting. You say it's not in Matthew. Who said anything about Matthew???? It isn't in Treasure Island either.

 

@Iconoclast

Don't worry about what I believe....worry about what you believe.

I can provide my own proof from what is written in Scripture. Thus far you cannot.

 

Again....you are making a fool of yourself.

I said I believe Christ bore our dins in His body, that Christ shared our infirmity. You claimed this was not in Scripture.

Who said anything about it being in Matthew, 1 Peter, or Isaiah???? I said it was what I believed. You said IT IS NOT IN SCRIPTURE.

You are wrong.

God's Word is not just one book of the Bible.

Like I said, show where Scripture states the components of your faith. Like I said, you don't have to limit yourself to one book...gather passages.

Show a passage that states God punished Jesus instead of us.

Show another (from anywhere in Scripture) that states Christ suffered God's wrath.

Show another (from anywhere in Scripture) that Christ's death appeased God.

Show another (from anywhere in Scripture) that Jesus died instead of us dying.

You can't because it is not actually in God's Word. Your faith is no different from the prosperity gospel, RCC doctrine, or Apostolic Pentecostal theology. It is what you believe Scripture teaches but is nowhere in God's Word.

 

God's Word is God's Word. I believe Christ bore our sins in His body on the cross. I believe Christ shared our infirmity. One complements the other...... they are not contradictory. Scripture interprets Scripture.

You are just trying to obscure the fact that your belief is foreign to God's Word.

 

Have you found even one verse that states even one of those things I suggest you have added to Scripture?

Let's take a look. Start with just one -

Where is it written in God's Word that Christ suffered God's wrath?

 

Odd....Hebrews 3:15 uses the exact same word to speak of Christ as our High Priest sympathizing with our "physical weakness". So you are saying this means "physical sickness". Romans 8 says the Spirit helps "our physical weakness".

I guess I always assumed our struggle with the flesh was a spiritual issue....not just physical weakness. Go figure.

And Aaron did mot catch anything. The wages of sin is death. This is the curse, the bondage under which we were sold.

That said, I said we deserve this infirmity, He doesn't. Stop repeating what I have said as if I said otherwise. That is not being honest in a discussion.


What about YOUR faith? Have you found even ONE VERSE stating Chirst suffered God's wrath?

 

Ok....all...OK........
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It is painfully obvious that @Iconoclast cannot support his view via Scripture.

I do not care what those men he chooses to follow says. I do not care about what he believes is taught but not actually said in God's Word.

It us getting old reading through His references of men who tickle his ears and listening to his opinions of what he wishes Scripture said.

So I'm out (as far as @Iconoclast goes). I am open to others who are willing to trust in God's Word. But I am not interested in those who remain carried away by philosophy. There is nothing to be gained speaking about what Murray taught, or what somebody believes Scripture "teaches".

@Iconoclast , if you ever find a passage ("what is written") that states your belief then PM me and let me know. We'll discuss it then.

Until then, just keep in mind John Calvin did not die to save you. Please consider trusting in Hod and His Word rather than humanistic philosophy

 

@agedman ,

It's all yours. I think we have exhausted the appeal for Christians to seek out Scripture and now (for me) it is time to shake the dust off my running shoes.

There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that isn't there. - Hardy