Featured Romans 9 doesn't prove Calvinism; it proves the oppositie

If they don't have the ability then they do not have the option

 

I disagree. But that would be another topic.

 

Deu_4:29 seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him

Even those scattered among pagan nations can seek and find God.

2Ch_15:2 if you seek Him, He will let you find Him

Azariah brought the message of God to Asa that if the nation would seek Him they would find Him

Jer_29:13 'You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.

When you suffer hardship, if you seek God you can find Him

Mat_7:7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

Jesus to the disciples before they were saved tells them to keep Seeking God

Act_17:27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him

Paul, when he Addressed the Areopagus told the Greeks that if they seek the true God they could find Him

So from what the bible say it seem that man can seek God. As I have shown you before the text of Rom 3:10-18 is a Midrash. These 9 verses are a forthright condemnation of fallen man. But they say nothing about man’s will or his ability or inability to receive the gospel or to exercise faith.

You focus on the verses that you think support your view and ignore everything else.

 

It makes me chuckle when you try to create a theology from isolated sentences in the Bible. Did you know that Muslims and Mormons do the same thing?

Now, every verse but one is directed to the chosen people of God, Israel. Therefore these verses do not make any argument for your theory. The verse in Acts where Paul is preaching to the Athenians is a surmising of Paul, not theology. If you want Paul's theology you can read Romans 1 and Romans 3.

So, your verses of which you imagine make your point, actually make no point for you. Will this dissuade you? Doubtful. It doesn't dissuade Muslims or Mormons.

 

So since Christ Jesus came only to save the Elect that must mean that only the elect were sinners, by your logic anyway.

1Ti_1:15 It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners,

Mar 2:17 I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.

So if everyone else is not a sinner, since God did not come to call them, then that would mean they are all saved? They would have to be the righteous ones that were not called. But that is not what the bible says is it.
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

But
Christ Jesus came to be the saviour of all not just a select few.
1Ti_2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all

And
It is by faith in Christ Jesus that a person is saved/justified
Rom_5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

So
Anyone that will trust in Christ Jesus will be saved
Rom_3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

So either the bible is wrong or your theology is wrong.

I am sure you can look up these verses in context if you want, but the reality is that the bible is clear, your theology is wrong

 

It makes me chuckle when you try to create a theology from isolated sentences in the Bible. You forgot to include calvinist in that group. Your whole theology is built on isolated verses.

 

Notice it does not say all sinners.

 

If you take the time to look at the Greek it will help you understand this verse.
Boúlomai (G1014) expresses a merely passive desire, propensity, willingness, while thélō (G2309) expresses an active volition and purpose.

not G3361 willing G1014 (G5740) from NKJV
intending G1014 (G5740)

So, taking into consideration the meaning of Boúlomai (G1014) it would be better to understand G1014 in 2Pe:9 to read that God did not intend or want for any to perish. And this fits with what Paul wrote in 1Ti 2:3-4
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

You really struggle with the text of the bible don't you. You will go to any length to deny what the bible says in the hope that it justifies your theology.

If you have to work that hard to make your theology fit then it may be time you did a rethink about?

 

The fact that you can not see the errors in your theology is amazing. Many have pointed out your lame comments but you just ignore them. You are trusting your humanistic views not biblical ones.

Context and calvinism do not go together. Your whole theology is just pieced together by cherry picking verses that you hope support your view.

 

I was responding to Van's question in post #69. Your quote wasn't accurate.

LOL, I don't have any clue how you come to this foolish conclusion. This is a perfect example of your dishonest twisting and ultimate falsehood.

Yep, Jesus did. Does it say all sinners, Silverhair?

Yep, he did. Does it say all sinners, Silverhair? Try reading John 6, John 10 and John 17 where Jesus tells you who is called.

Now, here we have an loaded if/then question that starts with a false assumption and concludes with a false answer. This question is asked because original assertion Silverhair gives is pure garbage.

Let's look and see how far down his fantasy Silverhair will go...

Notice the complete twist that Silverhair attempts in the above statement. It's like listening to a sports announcer comment on a basketball game and say that the goalie was on the ice wearing a mini skirt and football helmet.

Indeed it does, and it is true. I believe it.

Now, if Silverhair is correct and the word all is universal to the whole world then he has just told us that he's a universalist and everyone is saved and going to be in heaven.

Indeed it is. Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us that faith is a gift of God and it is that gracious gift of faith that justifies us before a holy God.

Yep.
Who will place their trust in God. Jesus tells us. "All whom the Father has given me."
Paul tells us it is all who have been adopted from before the foundation of the world.

In this case...its neither.
The Bible is correct and I am correct.
But, you are demonstratably wrong and shown to be wrong in this post.

The Bible is clear. These verses prove I am correct.
This post also proves you have created a fantastically false argument from your imagination and literally nothing you asserted about me is fact. It is, in truth, your own fantasy.

Silverhair, thank you for such a convoluted falsehood. Now everyone reading this post can easily see what you did and that nothing you say can be trusted.

 

Interesting you did not address the point...

 

I am a Calvinist and I AFFIRM free will. So you are going to have to try some other argument.