Is a Presbyterian church much different?

[Reformed1689]

The inconsistency is in your imagination, religionist, so stop scratching.

It's absolutely inconsistent. But that's a topic for another thread. And if you say religionist, I stay with the Bible. If that makes me a religionist then I wear it with a badge of honor.

 

[kyredneck]

It's absolutely inconsistent. But that's a topic for another thread. And if you say religionist, I stay with the Bible. If that makes me a religionist then I wear it with a badge of honor.

It's a shame that there are no concise instructions in the NT on HOW to Baptize. Something that has proven to be sooo divisive among Christians you'd think there'd be sound instructions. If I were to want to know how to properly perform a trespass offering, or a burnt offering, or a peace offering, or to build an ark like Moses built, or even one like Noah built, I can find from the scriptures precise instructions on how to do it. But water baptism? Not.

[add]

15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, immediately. Acts 16

There is a case to be made that children were included in in some of these baptisms.

 

[kyredneck]

And if you say religionist, I stay with the Bible.

Don't you religionists insist on sound direction from the scripture? Where are your instructions on how to properly water baptize?

 

[Salty]

The title of this thread is:
Is a Presbyterian church much different?

This the OP in Post # 1

I'm looking around and I only have a couple options. I don't really know the difference. I am trying to look into it but I am a bit confused.

Lets get back on Subject! (me included)

If you want to continue just on Baptism - start a new thread.

 

[Aaron]

Admin note:
See post # 24

 

[Salty]

Why do you think Baptists put so much emphasis on the mode?

See this link: Why do you think Baptists put so much emphasis on the mod

 

[Mikey]

FTR, I'm firm believer in believer's baptism. I'm also firm believer that God has blessed my entire household because of my commitment to Him, He's proven it over the years. A whole 'household' being baptized into the Christian religion because the head of said household has committed to the faith isn't a hard thing for me to accept. The kids can always satisfy you religionists by being re-baptised later when they come of age.

wow.

 

[Duckie]

I know I'm a little new but I consider myself an Anabaptist by definition, even if I shed the Mennonite garb, so baptism is a relevant point for me.

I don't mind.

 

[Salty]

I know I'm a little new but I consider myself an Anabaptist by definition, even if I shed the Mennonite garb, so baptism is a relevant point for me.

I don't mind.

Lets try this one LAST TIME - the OP is about being/attending Presbyterian Church - lets stay on subject!!!!

 

[Duckie]

Lets try this one LAST TIME - the OP is about being/attending Presbyterian Church - lets stay on subject!!!!

Yes, and I am OP.

It would be relevant if you considered what anabaptist (meaning rebaptizer) is.


An·a·bap·tism
[ˌanəˈbapˌtizəm]
NOUN

1. the doctrine that baptism should only be administered to believing adults, held by a radical Protestant sect that emerged during the 1520s and 1530s.

The commenters here are not at fault. That is why I asked about another denomination I didn't know about. Theological differences.

 

[Marooncat79]

It depends on what denomination of Presbyterian. If its Presbyterian USA, I would run away as fast as possible. They are liberal and deny Jesus is God. Don't go there.
If they are PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) then they are likely sound in doctrine. For me, I would only consider PCA, but there maybe another sound denomination of Presbyterian that I don't know about.

The ARP and the OP mirror the PCA. They are more so better in most cases since they do not allow some of the issues to surface than the PCA. Ex: women preaching, the so called worship wars and LGBT issues

 

[kyredneck]

wow.

Wow. Make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[agedman]

Yes, and I am OP.

It would be relevant if you considered what anabaptist (meaning rebaptizer) is.


An·a·bap·tism
[ˌanəˈbapˌtizəm]
NOUN

1. the doctrine that baptism should only be administered to believing adults, held by a radical Protestant sect that emerged during the 1520s and 1530s.

The commenters here are not at fault. That is why I asked about another denomination I didn't know about. Theological differences.

Would it be improper for me to ask concerning your experience with the anabaptist and what you expect from another Baptist, PCA, ...?

 

[5 point Gillinist]

It's a shame that there are no concise instructions in the NT on HOW to Baptize. Something that has proven to be sooo divisive among Christians you'd think there'd be sound instructions. If I were to want to know how to properly perform a trespass offering, or a burnt offering, or a peace offering, or to build an ark like Moses built, or even one like Noah built, I can find from the scriptures precise instructions on how to do it. But water baptism? Not.

[add]

15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, immediately. Acts 16

There is a case to be made that children were included in in some of these baptisms.

But didn't these baptisms follow the preaching of the gospel? Would it be a safe assumption that all who were baptized did so because they have believed?

 

[kyredneck]

Would it be a safe assumption that all who were baptized did so because they have believed?

We don't know that to be a fact, and, there's no instruction NOT to Baptize kids, And please, don't get me wrong, I'm NOT advocating for pedo-Baptism.

 

[Salty]

We don't know that to be a fact, and, there's no instruction NOT to Baptize kids, And please, don't get me wrong, I'm NOT advocating for pedo-Baptism.

Hmm - isnt every example of baptism - it is a man - thus maybe we are not to baptize women???

 

[kyredneck]

Hmm - isnt every example of baptism - it is a man - thus maybe we are not to baptize women???

???

 

[5 point Gillinist]

We don't know that to be a fact, and, there's no instruction NOT to Baptize kids, And please, don't get me wrong, I'm NOT advocating for pedo-Baptism.

You're right there is no prohibition against it outright. But in the context of all baptisms in the bible a profession of faith is made prior to, or at least implied with the preaching of the gospel.

 

[JesusFan]

It's a shame that there are no concise instructions in the NT on HOW to Baptize. Something that has proven to be sooo divisive among Christians you'd think there'd be sound instructions. If I were to want to know how to properly perform a trespass offering, or a burnt offering, or a peace offering, or to build an ark like Moses built, or even one like Noah built, I can find from the scriptures precise instructions on how to do it. But water baptism? Not.

[add]

15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, immediately. Acts 16

There is a case to be made that children were included in in some of these baptisms.

No there is not, as the NT practice was believers baptism!

 

[JesusFan]

I'm looking around and I only have a couple options. I don't really know the difference. I am trying to look into it but I am a bit confused.

no baptists?