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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, May 10, 2022.

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  1. Reynolds

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    You should brush up on Macarthurs Lordship Salvation doctrine. Half what you say he said, he did not say.
     
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    This guy and his ilk literally caused churches up and down the east coast to close their doors because of all the havoc that was caused by that agenda so nope, not misrepresented at all.
     
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    I once saw the guy disrupt one of Sprolls Ligner conferences by telling the audience that Pedobaptists were to correct their baptist preferences to the proper way to baptize… namely getting dunked! That caused quite some heat since the conference was primarily a Pedobaptist and Presbyterian/Reformed audience. :rolleyes:
     
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    You literally have no idea what you are talking about. If churches closed their doors it wasn't because one man in California preached biblical truth. It was because of something else.
     
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    Out of curiosity, who do you consider to be the anti missions movement?
     
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    I am referring to a 19th century movement. Don't know of anybody today.
     
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    Yea, the refusal to bow down to Calvinist doctrinal agenda.
     
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    Does not matter what you reject - remember, I reject that justification is corporate rather than individual....but you still view my view as a NPP view.
     
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    OK then, could you explain your reference to the 19th century? It’s just that I don’t understand the answer you provided. Thanks
     
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    Absurd. How does one book from one man close doors 3,000 miles away? You must just not like John MacArthur, and that is your right, but you aren't entitled to your own history and facts.
     
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    You are still wrong. He didn't say what you said he did. He did not cause any church to close. If immature members who can't handle doctrinal debate caused their churches to implode, that is an entirely different matter.
     
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    He makes his own "facts" in about every post.
     
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    You should open your eyes then. I’m done.
     
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    @JesusFan was saying that my belief was n the Victorious Christ view mirrors NT Wright view.

    That is no different from saying his view mirrors the 18th century anti-missions movement.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Well why don't you provide some evidence?
     
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    It is evident that there are some empty complainers who revolt against the observed truth of God's Word and replace observed truth with a fantasy faith that they cannot even articulate. It's a muddy water faith philosophy.
     
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    Don't be so hard on yourself. Try writing down what you believe and work through it that way until it is coherent.

    Since you reply on Reformed books (authors I have read as well) I can get what you are saying even through the muddy philosophy.
     
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