Featured The NT does not teach Christ to return soon.

My point was that the Greek word need not be translated as "generation." I'll stick to that. (See Post #118.) Now, why are you trying to put the words of Jesus into my mouth? (But they were the race who crucified Jesus. That's pretty evil.) To this day in history they reject Christ as a people group. (Ever tried to win a Jew to Christ?) But of course there are marvelous examples of individual saved Jews, such as the great Jewish evangelists Jacob Gartenhaus and Hyman Appelman, and the concert pianist Sam Rotman we recently had here for a concert and to teach us the Seder.

 

The rapture hasn't happened yet, nor any of the other eschatological events.

 

Partial preterism is just-as-false. Jesus said He'd return IMMEDIATELY AFTER the great trib. So, if the trib has already occurred, Jesus is 'WAY overdue!

 

John of Japan dealt with your 'generation' stuff, but I'm adding that Josephus wrote to keep Vespasian, and later, Titus, happy & thus keeo his head attached. Remember, he was a rebel leader captured by Vespasian, & he had to bargain for his life. Thus, he wrote to please the Romans.

 

The simple facts that the Jews retained their national Israeli ID despite all the persecutions against them, and that the eschatological events haven't yet occurred sustains your definition of 'genea' for certain verses of Scripture.

 

No he didn't. All he did was show that he has changed his mind from 9 years ago and that he didn't put much, if any, thought into rendering 'genea' as 'race' in the NT.

 

Josephus, along with Christ and John the Baptist and NT writers, verified the truthfulness/fulfillment of 'The Song Of Moses' pertaining to that generation of Jews contemporary with Christ and the apostles:

Moses:

29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do that which is evil in the sight of Jehovah, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. Dt 31
5 They have dealt corruptly with him, they are not his children, it is their blemish; They are a perverse and crooked generation.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: For they are a very perverse generation, Children in whom is no faithfulness.
21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; They have provoked me to anger with their vanities: And I will move them to jealousy with those that are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. Dt 32

Josephus:

“It is therefore impossible to go distinctly over every instance of these men's iniquity. I shall therefore speak my mind here at once briefly: - That neither did any other city ever suffer such miseries, nor did any age ever breed a generation more fruitful in wickedness than this was, from the beginning of the world.....” Book 5, ch 10, sec. 5

“.. I suppose, that had the Romans made any longer delay in coming against these villains, that the city would either have been swallowed up by the ground opening upon them, or been overflowed by water, or else been destroyed by such thunder as the country of Sodom (20) perished by, for it had brought forth a generation of men much more atheistical than were those that suffered such punishments; for by their madness it was that all the people came to be destroyed....” Book 5, ch. 13, sec. 6

“....and I cannot but think that it was because God had doomed this city to destruction, as a polluted city, and was resolved to purge his sanctuary by fire, that he cut off these their great defenders and well-wishers, while those that a little before had worn the sacred garments, and had presided over the public worship; and had been esteemed venerable by those that dwelt on the whole habitable earth when they came into our city, were cast out naked, and seen to be the food of dogs and wild beasts. And I cannot but imagine that virtue itself groaned at these men's case, and lamented that she was here so terribly conquered by wickedness.....” Book 4, ch. 5, sec. 2

 

...Except-THE ESCHATOLOGICAL EVENTS HAVEN'T YET HAPPENED. You can't prove differently.

 

Lol, the historian Josephus thoroughly covered 'the time of Jacob's trouble', he was eyewitness to it.

 

Only nine years of thought.

 

Nupe ! He invented it from Scripture. You put too much trust in a turncoat rebel leader who was trying to not be killed after being captured. And the great trib will be WORLDWIDE, as Jesus said in Rev. 3:10. If the trib had already happened, Jesus is 'WAY-overdue !

 

Please give the reference in Josephus for this. I have the four volume set and can look it up. But the index (end of Vol. IV) has nothing about Jacob's trouble.

 

The only reference to 'the time of Jacob's trouble" is in Jeremiah 30:7. Josephus woulda likely been familiar with Jerry's writings. But the TRUTH is, those events didn't happen then; just the fulfilling of the "days of vengeance", which was on the Jews alone, not the rest of Israel, nor the whole world.

 

Josephus thoroughly covers both the Roman invasion and the civil war in 'Antiquities' and 'Wars' that brought about the destruction of Jerusalem and the violent end of the Mosaic *Covenant.

*Economy

 

I knew that much. You did not answer my question. Let me rephrase it. Where does Josephus specify that such events were "Jacob's trouble"?