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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by asterisktom, Jun 1, 2022.

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  1. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
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    "If your creed and Scripture do not agree, cut your creed to pieces, but make it agree with this book. If there be anything in the church to which you belong which is contrary to the inspired word, leave that church." Charles Charles Haddon Spurgeon

    Discuss. I'll make coffee.

    Do we think that, centuries after the Scribes and Pharisees, people are no longer able to make the Word of God of no effect with traditions of men?
     
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    Lip service leaders say all the right things but do not act accordingly. Are the creeds and confessions proclaiming Calvinism still with us, or have they been cut to ribbons. Do those traditions make the Word of God to no effect to this day? Yes indeed.
     
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    What would be the traditions of men today?
     
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    They could be anything that is not expressly in the Word of God: Not only creeds, but lesser literature, cultural theology, you name it. Everything, like Spurgeon wrote, needs always to be judged by Scripture. Everything.
     
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  5. asterisktom

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    Many of the Creeds the Calvinists embrace do have errors IMO. But not just theirs. BTW, I consider myself Reformed but with an asterisk.)
     
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    Lol, 'their' error is all Van sees.
     
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  7. asterisktom

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    I imagine you are right. Its a shame because Reformed writers have done some profound and edifying work. I have benefited greatly by studying them, Owen and Bunyan especially.
     
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    People should know that Spurgeon re-published the Baptist 1689 Confession, and had a copy buried in the foundation of the Met Tab.
     
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    I am not big on creeds. Most people who are cute creeds more often than Scripture.
     
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    Oh Van, as usual you spout absurdities. :Laugh:Roflmao
     
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    I noticed that too, even though they often deny it. (I assume you meant "quote")
     
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    Off topic personal insult post. Must be tolerated or ignored because no protection is provided.
     
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    Off topic personal insult post. Must be tolerated or ignored because no protection is provided.
     
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    Oh yeah because you are such a victim :rolleyes:
     
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    I understand the point of creeds (WMCF, 1689, etc.), I understand that they are a way to sum up what it is you believe. That being said when people demand to know your creeds, place a heavy emphasis upon the creed itself, having sunday school on the creed, and start tattooing 1689 on their fingers I kind of think the point of the creed has been missed.
     
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    The point of a confession is to express WHAT you believe about the Bible. You can't just say "I believe the Bible" that doesn't tell us anything about what you actually believe as evidenced on this forum.
     
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    That is what I meant - I might not have said that clearly. That being said they are useful. It is when the aforementioned happens that it just becomes nauseating.
     
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    I did. I need to turn auto correct off.
     
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    In the Big Sleep, Bogart refers to people like you, "first they kick your teeth out, then they punch you for mumbling," or words to that effect.
     
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    My experience with the creeds/confessions on the BB is that many don't question it, they cease thinking on their own (if they ever did) and conform to the box.
     
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