The Gospel in Six Minutes

Because that is what you believe? The yet unsaved must some how come to a reason to believe. What reason should any not yet believers believe any gospel claim? And furthermore believe Christ died for them, if the teaching is, He did not die for everyone? There would be zero reason.

 

Why would a worldy person even considering such a thing? By what reasons?

 

Good thing for me, I heard the truth to believe in my Lord Jesus Christ who died and rose from the dead that I might know God and His forgiveness.

 

"Calvinism" was given its name by the powerful Lutheran State Church ... in an effort to smear the Reformers in EXACTLY the same way that you are: by implying that their exegesis of scripture is the teaching of a man rather than the word of God (which is ironic for a denomination that venerates the "Book of Concord" because it was written by Martin Luther, after whom the Lutheran Church is named).

 

IF "Calvinism" is not from the teachings of John Calvin, then it is DECEIVING to say "5 point of Calvinism", when Calvin himself taught that Jesus died for the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, which means the L point, is NOT Calvin!

 

Great quote from John Calvin himself, Saved By Grace! It clearly shows that those who call themselves Calvinists are not following John Calvin on his teaching about John 3:16! No better source could be found. Thanks for sharing that!

 

Just for your information Atpollard, this is what Martin Luther said (and I quote) when he found out people were trying to make a Lutheran church after his name: "Dirty maggot fodder that I am that any man should call the church of Jesus Christ by my name. For we have only one Head, even Christ." Then he quotes I Cor 1:10-13:

Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing & that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind & in the same judgment. 11For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions (divisions) among you. 12Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

 

Your false charge & accusation that we are opponents of the doctrines of God's grace falls down flat. I hope you & your fellow 'sovereign grace' advocates stop saying we are opposed to the biblical doctrine of the grace of God. And if you choose not to be called a Calvinist, then so be it. I have no problem with not calling you a Calvinist. We should be calling ourselves Christians, followers of Christ, IF that is true of you & me.

 

Will you entertain the possibility that the meaning and use of words can change over 500 years. John Calvin died in 1564 and “TULIP” first appeared in a lecture by Cleland McAfee around 1905 and a Presbyterian newspaper in 1913. So the modern 5 points are quite modern in their current form. The truths contained within them can be traced back to the Synod of Dort (which itself merely quoted those specific truths from the long established 66 books of Scripture in response to a 16th century “error” being advocated.)

Calvin is irrelevant to so-called “Calvinism” (which should be obvious from the absence of any Church founded by John Calvin.). Calvin is doubly irrelevant to Particular Baptists, since we are not even properly “Reformed” (rejecting things like Infant Baptism that mark churches descended directly from the Reformation like the Presbyterians). We merely agree with the reformers and accept Biblical soteriology (Ephesians 2:1-10 … God saves men without first asking permission).

 

so when the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is Almighty God, in the Days of His Flesh on earth, proclaims, at the start of His Ministry, "and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; REPENT and BELIEVE in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15), He is wrong? Likewise, at the end of His Ministry, Commands, "and that REPENTANCE for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47), He is also wrong? And, the Chief Apostle, Peter, at the end of his First Sermon, responds to those who heard him, and said, "what shall we DO?" (Acts 2:37), by saying, "Peter said to them, “REPENT, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (v38), he is also wrong? And, the Apostle to the Gentiles, Paul, was also wrong, when he says, "For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death" (2 Corinthians 7:10). And we are to believe that "Reformed and Particular" theology is right? This is the highest ARROGANCE that I have seen, and complete RUBBISH!

 

what UTTER RUBBISH!!!

 

here is a thread I did last year on the way of salvation, The Bible Way of Salvation

 

I have said this many times on BB, John 3:16-18 is very clear, that God has a Saving Love for the entire human race. there is no other way to understand this passage, unless you were to twist its meaning.