KenH
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are REFORMED!
Not the church where I attend nor the churches with which it fellowships, such as having their preachers speak at Bible conferences.
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Not the church where I attend nor the churches with which it fellowships, such as having their preachers speak at Bible conferences.
SavedByGrace
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then they cannot be "true" sovereign grace Baptists
Most of the comments/questions from the anti-grace crowd is just that - absurd.
KenH
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Probably so, but it is in the title of the church I attend. Since I have only been attending there for less than a year, I don't know all its 35 year history and why that is the name, but it would probably more accurately be titled Trenton Street Grace Church instead of Grace Baptist Church of Ruston. That being said, we do baptize believers by immersion and observe the Lord's Supper as our two ordinances, just as the Baptist Churches I am aware of do.
KenH
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Yet there are people, even among believers in the sovereign grace of God, who will attack someone who quotes someone, say, for example, Charles Spurgeon, because he said nice things about John Wesley. Now, I wish Spurgeon had not said those nice things about John Wesley, but if someone believes that their salvation is based on the finished work of Christ alone and in the elect's sins being imputed to Christ and His perfect righteousness being imputed to them, I have no interest in jumping all over that person because of some isolated remarks they made about someone else.
KenH
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By the way, thank you for bring Gill's Body of Divinity to my attention. I had heard of it but I need to check it out. I see that it is available for reading online here: A Body of Doctrinal Divinity (monergism.com)
SavedByGrace
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and WHY not?
37818
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I could know for sure. Christ paid for my sins. Assured of God's forgiveness and salvation. It is a gift I could not refuse.
You asked, 'how does one know that they're elect?' I ask,
How did you know you were a sinner?
You think those described in Romans 3:10-18 know that they are sinners?
KenH
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John Wesley taught the false gospel of Methodism.
SavedByGrace
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Like what?
KenH
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John Wesley taught the false doctrine of prevenient grace instead of the gospel of Christ of efficacious grace.
SavedByGrace
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is not Biblical!
KenH
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If it is not, then you, and I, have no hope. Neither you, nor I, can efficaciously save ourselves.
SavedByGrace
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Acts 7:51, "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always RESIST the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you"
ἀντιπίπτω, to OPPOSE
37818
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My question was about how does one know Christ died for one prior to believing, except by a general redemption?
If one hears and acknowledges Romans 3:10 is true, one understands one is a sinner.
KenH
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The command is to believe, not to figure out if you are one of the elect.
KenH
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Are you saying that you think you can efficaciously save yourself?
SavedByGrace
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Are you saying that you think you can efficaciously save yourself?
that word does not even appear in the Bible. you are trying to show that God's Grace is irresistible in the elect, which is unbiblical!
KenH
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It is Biblical.
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