Poll: If the 2nd A was constitutionally repealed…….

Romans 13 does not teach that we are to strictly obey all government laws. Daniel, the Hebrew Midwives, and others practiced civil disobedience. Acts 4:19-20 tells us that we are to disobey man's laws when they contradict God. Our founding fathers believed Scripture gave them the right to specifically resist bad laws, bad acts, or bad governments. History shows that they initially pursued peaceful reconciliation; it was Great Britain that terminated the discussions. In their understanding, the American Revolution was not an act of anarchy or rebellion; rather it was an act of resistance to a government that violated the Biblical purposes for which God had ordained civil government. In fact, so cognizant were the Founders that they would account to God for what they had done and be justified in His eyes, that the flag of the Massachusetts Army proclaimed "An Appeal to God," and the flag of the Massachusetts Navy likewise declared "An Appeal to Heaven." This was a defensive resistance more than an offensive rebellion.

Which leads us back to the question at hand. The U.S. Government is restricting our rights more and more. Just as we would be justified in resisting a government edict to stop holding church services or a law to abort every child after your 2nd one, we are justified in resisting these un-Godly laws and this un-Godly government. Like our founding fathers, we should try peaceful resolutions first, but we should be prepared to do whatever is necessary if/when they attempt to outlaw our guns, silence our free speech, etc.

 

If you had fully read my posts, you would know I agree. When government demands that we break God's moral laws (10 Commandments) we must not obey government for our Kingdom is in heaven and we are exiles here.
The founding fathers of the US never established that Britain was breaking God's law in its rule.

 

While I generally agree with your view on most topics, I must respectfully disagree. No new argument, though. I believe this was more of a resistance which turned into a revolution after all peaceful efforts had failed.

 

The Declaration of Independence makes the case for itself. King George III was breaking God's law just as surely as Pharaoh broke God's law with his treatment of the Israelites.

 

You live in England?

 

Where does God say we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

Second, what moral laws is King George breaking as presented in the declaration of independence?

 

It's already personal when Americans think we'd be safer if there were no guns .

The English aren't safe though they are disarmed.

Law abiding citizens being disarmed does nothing less than expand the hunting ground of the non-law abiding who know they'll meet no armed resistance. Because fun control laws control those who abide by the law.

And our Revolution was not umbilical nor against God. In fact it was Godly and biblical. And what smacks as disingenuous in such a debate is when those who allegedly are citizens here denegrate our founding as ungodly. It was just the opposite. As Christian's know if they paid attention to the history.

This country's foundation was of God after victory in that Revolutionary War was God's will.

 

Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's.

I don't for a minute buy the argument some make against America's fight for liberty and independence. Especially when they allegedly live here after the fact.

Which is sin.

Because they're allegedly enjoying the fruits of the labors of colonists they posthumously disrespect. And charge as heretics and blasphemers, workers of darkness, when insisting as they do those colonists were acting against God, God's law, and God's will.

So to live here is to violate God's word when he says have nothing to do with the ungodly or their fruits. Ephesians 5:11.

No 4th of July celebration for those type folk in this thread.
Having no respect for freedom and liberty, they'd be the highest form of hypocrite if they were to celebrate that date.


What Were The Main Reasons The Colonists Wanted To Break Free From Britain? » historyofmyamerica.com

 

I disagree. The topic of babies entered this thread awhile ago. And you responded to it in post #35.
My post is just expounding on that which was already entered into this discussion.

 

Incorrect.
From WHITEHOUSE.gov

“The founders also specified a process by which the Constitution may be amended, and since its ratification, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. In order to prevent arbitrary changes, the process for making amendments is quite onerous. An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.”
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A Constitutional Amendment is FIRST voted on by the US CONGRESS and then voted on by the STATE LEGISLATURES. That is not a vote by “the people”, that is a vote by “the government”.

 

Obviously.

 

It was illegal to be a Jew in Germany and totally lawful to take their property and send them to the gas chambers.

Are you heartened by those legal results?

You don’t render your God given rights to Caesar.

 

The 2A only recognises the preexisting god given right of self defence, this is not something that should be traded away to Caesar, especially by father’s and husbands who have a god given duty to protect those in his charge.

If husbands and fathers abdicate and abrogate their God given responsibilities over to Caesar, the world is truly lost to hell.

Repeal the 2A and God given Right remains. Husbands and fathers will still have the god given duty as protectors but will have rendered themselves powerless to do so if hand over their weapons.