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And then we have Romans 3:23-26.

 

Jon, it is very clear from your MANY posts on "Penal Substitution", that you are yourself not clear on what the Bible says! It looks like you have to try to convince yourself, that this is not taught in the Bible, even though no one, including you, has ever been able to show that, this Great Doctrine, is unbiblical!

 

Romans 4:5. 'But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness.'
Do you believe on Him who justifies the ungodly? I hope so.

 

I am the chief of sinners, but not in this respect. You denied absolutely that God was pleased to bruise the Son, even when the verse was pointed out to you. I suppose that I shall have to dredge the details up from the archives, but your memory is very selective if you do not remember it.

 

This is a remarkable post. It is wrong on just about every single thing it affirms (save that Scripture is the standard by which we test doctrine), and refutes its own opening sentence.
However, I am sure that @SavedByGrace is well able to answer the post, and will wait for him before doing so myself.

 

The attempt to drive a wedge between sins and sinners is false exegesis. Look at Psalms 4:4-5.
'You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You.' Here are the sins.
'The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity.' And here are the sinners. God hates sins and those who commit them.
Transgressors are punished in the atonement, but those who are given to Christ to redeem are punished in Him. Christ is federally joined to His people as I explained above (post #10). Here you are again.

Who are those ‘in Christ’? Those He came to save; those who were given to Him by the Father before time began. “Christ came not to strangers but to brethren (Hebrews 2:11-13). He came here not to procure a people for Himself, but to secure a people already His” (A.W. Pink). There are many supporting texts for this, e.g. Matthew 1:21; John 6:39; 10:27-29; 17:2, 6; Ephesians 1:4. Christ is united federally to His people. They are ‘chosen in Christ’ (Ephesians 1:4), ‘Created in Christ’ (Ephesians 2:10); ‘circumcised in Him’ (Colossians 2:11) and ‘made the righteousness of God in Him' (2 Corinthians 5:21). But as Surety, the Lord Jesus must also pay the debts (transgressions: see Matthew 6:12) of His people, and if they are to be freed from their debt, He must pay the very last penny (Matthew 5:26).
I can expand on this if required.

 

@ JonC,
Your pointing out Proverbs 17:15 is genius, "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.". How that any kind of PS is something which sinful man can never do and be justified before our Holy and Righteous God. It being something only our infinity good God could do. Romans 3:23-26. James 1:13, ". . . for God cannot be tempted with evil, . . . ."

 

And yet........
God does justify the ungodly (Romans 4:5), and it did please God to crush the sinless Christ, putting Him to grief (Isaiah 53:10).
What we have to do is to work out how He can do that and still be perfectly righteous.

 

God can do whatever His infinite goodness requires and allows Himself to do according to His purpose being God.

 

Since mankind is made sinners, we are all in an unholy sinful state, even before we have done anything good or bad. And in this unholy state, we are separated from God and can do nothing to overcome our unholiness and become united with God. The consequence of our being made a sinner, and the consequence of our volitional sins, if we live long enough to commit them must be overcome if we are to be united with God. Since all our works of righteousness are as filthy rags to God, someone else must act to overcome the consequence of being in an unholy and sinful separated state.

Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (humanity, one sinner at a time). That which God holds against us, is what is taken out of the way, being nailed to the cross. Thus those who "receive the reconciliation" have the consequence of being in a sinful state taken away. So even though Christ died as a ransom for all humanity, making salvation available to all, only those God chooses and places into Christ spiritually undergo the circumcision of Christ where the consequence of being in a sinful state is removed.

Lets call this biblical doctrine Substitutionary Reconciliation.

 

There are one or two things that apparently God cannot do. He cannot lie (Titus 1:2) and He cannot deny Himself 2 Timothy 2:13).

 

This is a very strange question. Because of John 3:16 and 2 Corinthians 5:21. If God was happy simply to forgive men their sins, then Christ could have stayed at home. But God is just and God is holy, and He cannot deny Himself. Therefore all the sins of His people were put upon the Lord Jesus and He has paid the penalty for them in full. His perfect righteousness is credited to those who trust in Him so that God sees no sin in them, hence no condemnation (Romans 8:1) and no punishment.
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I have explained that to you times without number. You just don't pay any attention. I have answered you again in Post #39 above.
I think @SavedByGrace is perfectly able to refute your post #25 without any help from me, but if doesn't answer your post tomorrow, I shall take great pleasure in refuting it line by line as it deserves.