Books on Translation

[Deacon]

There are nevertheless all these links:
The Living Word National Bible Museum at DuckDuckGo

Off topic but…
The director of the Branson Museum in the first link you gave (John R. Hellstern) is the director of the Washington Bible Museum.
My guess, the whole museum relocated.

Rob

 

[John of Japan]

Off topic but…
The director of the Branson Museum in the first link you gave (John R. Hellstern) is the director of the Washington Bible Museum.
My guess, the whole museum relocated.

Rob

Well, now, that's interesting.

 

[John of Japan]

Off topic but…
The director of the Branson Museum in the first link you gave (John R. Hellstern) is the director of the Washington Bible Museum.
My guess, the whole museum relocated.

Rob

Just Googled it, and the Washington Bible Museum has the replica of the Gutenberg press, so apparently the Branson museum I went to was the forerunner of the one in Washington. Cool!

 

[Deacon]

Do I hear the call for a BaptistBoard field trip?

Rob

 

[JesusFan]

Seems like he tried not to say that but ended up saying it.

Which would then make him classic KJVO, and makes using his book very dubious!

 

[JesusFan]

Back in 1961, a new translation of the New Testament came out called The New English Bible. The complete Bible came out in 1970. It caused quite a stir, was roundly criticized by conservatives, was revised as the Revised English Bible some years later, and seems to have sunk into oblivion. I have two pamphlets from those years by conservatives that are of historical interest. (I actually referred to them in that way in an academic paper I did some years ago.)

The pamphlets almost scream, "Bad translation!!!" I want to make it clear, though, that I personally would never refer to any translation with the rhetoric these titles use. The Bible, even badly translated, simply cannot be a perversion or a project of Satan, though individual liberal renderings can be wrong and twist the Scripture translated.

Ian R. K. Paisley, Version or Perversion? Belfast: Martyrs' Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, 1961.
This pamphlet is by the famous Irish Protestant pastor and politician. Yes, that Ian Paisley. He was a real firebrand (I've heard him preach), and a fundamentalist in the mold of Bob Jones, Jr., who was a close friend. Paisley was also a friend to some degree with my grandfather, John R. Rice, and I've been told that he attended a birthday party of JRR back in the day, but that's all I know about that.

The pamphlet's theme is kind of like, "That's not a Bible. Let me show you a real Bible!" But I must say Paisley was not KJVO. He simply objected to the liberalism of the translation. Here are some of his objections:
1. The NEB does not have "only begotten" for monogenes (μονογενής) in John 3:16 and other places.
2. Does not translate "Son of God" correctly in a number of passages. For example, it has "God's chosen one" in John 1:34 rather than "Son of God." Does not capitalize "Son" in various passages.
3. Does not translate "virgin" (παρθένος) in Luke 1;26-27, having Mary as just a "girl."

There are many similar deliberate mis-translations, so I have to say this might be the most liberal translation out there! Well, except for that Japanese translation I have that has in the table of contents "Books by Paul" and "Books Purported to Be by Paul."

was it not the attempt to have a more dunamic and freerer translation at that time, like a more dynamic and liberal kind of Niv?

 

[John of Japan]

Do I hear the call for a BaptistBoard field trip?

Rob

I'd love to go; have heard much good about it.

 

[John of Japan]

was it not the attempt to have a more dunamic and freerer translation at that time, like a more dynamic and liberal kind of Niv?

You could say that, but the NEB came before the NIV.

 

[John of Japan]

Almost done with my list.

I have The Translator to the Reader (Strathpine North, Australia: Covenanter Press, 1984) from the original KJV in a pamphlet form, which I like. That gives me an actual book to cite rather than some Internet site. It has a few pictures of translators with information about them, and concludes with an Appendix listing and giving information about the various people and things mentioned--useful!

John R. Kohlenberger III, All About Bibles. New York Oxford University Press, 1985.
This is a short (66 pages) book for beginners. Oxford U. Press always does a nice job, and this is no exception. It tells basic facts about the Bible, its translations, how to choose a Bible, Bible manufacturing, etc., ending with a useful glossary.

I have one more item that is, strictly speaking, not a book. I think you'll enjoy seeing it. Stay tuned.

 

[JesusFan]

You could say that, but the NEB came before the NIV.

true but its translation philosophy seemed to be more in line with Niv and Nlt then say the Nasv!

 

[John of Japan]

And now for my last item. In 1989 we lived and ministered in Yokohama, Japan. Hearing of an exhibition of a genuine Gutenberg Bible in Tokyo, I went into the big city to see it. It was being shown at the huge Maruzen Department Store on the 120th anniversary of their founding. As I recall, admission was free, but I may have paid something. At any rate, I was given a beautiful folder, with three A4 size pages of awesome color photos, and four pages of explanation in Japanese. I am uploading the three pages of photographs for your enjoyment.

 

[Conan]

The Text of the Gospels: Interview: Jeff Kloha of Museum of the Bible

Interview: Jeff Kloha of Museum of the Bible

 

[John of Japan]

The Text of the Gospels: Interview: Jeff Kloha of Museum of the Bible

Interview: Jeff Kloha of Museum of the Bible

Great post! Thank you.