Featured Conditional election.

@37818 you found God's Covenant will being executed at the cross funny. I have no idea how you find God giving us an inheritance funny

 

Was every elect INDIVIDUAL chosen before the foundation of the world? Ephesians 1:4 refers to those who had been individually chosen during their lifetime as being chosen "in Him" before creation. But all that means is Logos was chosen to be the Lamb of God before creation and therefore everyone that God's chosen Redeemer would redeem was chosen corporately when God chose Christ individually.

Folks, see 2 Thessalonians 2:13, where individuals are chosen through faith in the truth. Or James 2:5 where individuals are chosen who love God and are therefore heirs of the kingdom promised to those who love God.

 

Then thats works. Unless you mean by your faith, the faith given one in new birth. If you mean your faith before new birth, its works !

 

37818

How and when will one become Gods elect ?

 

This has been discussed in another thread. @Martin Marprelate showed you the Greek words and why you are wrong. Yet, here you are, still denying what the text obviously tells us. Therefore, it is you who is attempting to split a hair that God never split.
Honestly, you have been shown this more than once and you are belligerent in refusing to accept what God has done.

God individually elected and chose us before the foundation of the world. Scripture shows you this, yet you are in denial.

 

No. Your interpretation here is just awful.

 

Great question.
I anticipate the answer to be..."foreknowledge" which becomes a loop that refuses to actually address your question.
It seems that some cannot accept the Sovereign election and choosing as something that happened before any of us ever did good or bad (like Jacob and Esau). For some reason, some demand to have the right to choose or reject while God is a passive observer.

 

Calvinism shows the calvinist that but the bible does not, you have been shown that a number of times but you refuse to accept what the bible says.

 

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Rom 10:13 For "WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED."

 

We have gone over this, 37.You are really not grasping what Jesus is saying.

The general call of reconciliation goes out to as many people as we can talk with, but those whom God wrote in his Covenant Will are a particular people whom he chose before the foundation of the world.

In Matthew 22 we see one person attempting to join by his free will and he is thrown out into darkness because the King never gave the man the royal garment.

I'm not sure how you are missing this.

 

Incorrect. It has been shown to you and you have hardened your heart.

 

Correct, but your version of election makes it a work.

 

So you think that the Holy Spirit {God} got it wrong. Oh the arrogance of you.

Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:13 For "WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED."
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?

Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

 

If Silverhair is saying anything to me, I have placed him on ignore due to his awful philosophy of God.

 

There you go reading into the text again. Context is not your friend Austin. But you would not know that as you ignore context.

 

Jacob and Esau in Rom 9 is dealing with service not salvation but you ignore that as it does not fit your calvinism.