The Music Debate Today

The Bible.

 

The Bible does not specify that information. God apparently expects us to understand what such an immoral woman would do as part of her immoral activities without His having to give us specific information in Scripture.

 

You are responsible. You have directly made a claim and attributed it to Amy Grant with no source. It is not my responsibility to prove the accuracy of your claim. It is your responsibility to back up your claim or admit that you are gossiping based on your own feelings about Amy Grant.

 

I did not say that it is your responsibility to prove the accuracy of what I said. What I did say is that you can find such information for yourself online.

Regardless, anyone who has seen some of her music videos and is honest can know exactly what is being communicated beyond the words that are being sung.

 

I confess, the last time I saw her in concert was in 1982 and Michael W Smith was her piano player. I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Great now show, from Scripture, how hymns are godly but CCM is not.

 

I believe that is the viewpoint of the poster that was directed towards for sure.

 

Ouch, "it was like I was in a trance..."
Second, was he unaware that there were no roses in that garden and likely no dew? Do we imagine that God threw him into a trance?
Sorry, Jon, your quotation here actually makes me cringe even more at this song.

*John 20:1-18*

Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” So Peter went out with the other disciple, and they were going toward the tomb. Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. And stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in. Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen cloths lying there, and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself. Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; for as yet they did not understand the Scripture, that he must rise from the dead. Then the disciples went back to their homes. But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she wept she stooped to look into the tomb. And she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had lain, one at the head and one at the feet. They said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?” She said to them, “They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.” Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.” Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned and said to him in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means Teacher). Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”—and that he had said these things to her.

 

LOL, you have contrived quite a fantasy about a song that is theologically and biblically weak. It certainly tugs at emotions.
The fact that the composer claims he was in a "trance" is a huge red flag. The song is merely emotional storytelling designed to elicit a human reaction that is easily mistaken for being Spirit lead.
In short, it's a bad song, but you feel good so somehow that beats good theology.

 

I directed it at you because I knew you would find humor in it.

 

Here's the lyrics.
1 I come to the garden alone,
While the dew is still on the roses;
And the voice I hear, falling on my ear,
The Son of God discloses.

Refrain:
And He walks with me, and He talks with me,
And He tells me I am His own,
And the joy we share as we tarry there,
None other has ever known.

2 He speaks, and the sound of His voice
Is so sweet the birds hush their singing;
And the melody that He gave to me
Within my heart is ringing. [Refrain]

3 I'd stay in the garden with Him
Tho' the night around me be falling;
But He bids me go; thro' the voice of woe,
His voice to me is calling. [Refrain]

Honestly, the song is empty lyrics filled with surmising and speculation. It creates a historical fiction at best. It's similar to what the TV series, the Chosen, is doing with the Gospels. It's creating a fictional back story within a sliver of truth. Ultimately it serves no theological purpose in teaching us about God. Instead its only function is to create an emotional response from a very human-centric position. Ultimately it does more harm than good for the Christian who truly seeks to know their God.

 

You sound like Jimmy Swaggart. He always said he just knew what music was good and what was of Satan. His honkey tonk piano music was Godly, but it sounded just like his cousins Jerry Lee Lewis and Mickey Gilleys honky tonk piano music. For some reason music that sounded like rock was of the devil because how it sounded. You remind me of Jimmy.

 

No, it doesn't focus on anything. It never gives any indication it is talking about Mary. Even if it did, it provides no substance.
Jon, you are desperately looking for a philosophical, existential experience in the song and then try to create value where there is none.
Listening to the song does nothing to enrich the true spiritual condition of the audience, but it does enrich their man-centered emotions. They get a fluffy bunny god who helps them feel good when they are feeling blue. It only lasts until the song is done and it teaches them nothing about the God in scripture.

But, perhaps feelings drive humans while truth lies dormant in today's society.

 

You thought right

 

So 1 person (you) says he knows the "real" context while the rest of the globe sings a song that makes no biblical point, but they feel good so kudos for that.

Jon, you are digging deep to try find something edible from a song that is void of any substance.

I shared the words. No one is going to make the connection you are trying to make.