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  1. Salty

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    This past weekend 5 people were killed and 19 injured at a club in Colorado.

    Will there be preachers out there giving a message that these folks got what they deserved for the
    sinful lifestyle they are/were living?

    Do we only mourn over the deaths of innocent?

    Should we be glad, the killer did not go to a church?

    Should we Grieve with those who grieve?

    Should we ask "Why did God allow this?"

    A church near this club had those questions:
    Colorado Springs LGBT nightclub was a mile from my church | Voice

    So, what is your reaction?
     
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    Had they not been sinning, they would still be alive. The wages of sin.
     
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    That is the typical response that I thought you would give.

    So this pastor must have been living a life of sin:
    A North Carolina family and congregation are mourning the Thursday death of Scott Hammett, the senior pastor of Clemmons First Baptist Church. Scott Hammond. According to social media and news reports, and also a message of condolence from the the Baptist Fellowship. Hammett was killed in a one-vehicle crash in Hickory, which is located about 60 miles west of Clemmons.
    This was was a couple of years ago.
     
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    Will there be preachers out there giving a message that these folks got what they deserved for the
    sinful lifestyle they are/were living?

    Yes. I'd guess Westboro has already started celebrating.

    Do we only mourn over the deaths of innocent?

    No.

    Should we Grieve with those who grieve?

    Yes.
     
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    God is sovereign. No one dies "too soon" nor "too late". We all die when God has ordained that we die and in the manner that He has ordained.

    We should recognize the sovereignty of God and be sympathetic to the victims and their loved ones and friends, as we will all die at some point, unless Christ returns and gets rid of this present heavens and earth and replaces them with the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness, before we die.
     
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    The rain falls on the just and the unjust.
    In the particular example you cited, had they not been in a gay bar, they would be alive today.
     
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    First - I dont know how happy that bar was.
    Second - if those 5 had be elsewhere in that bar, they could be alive today!
    Third - and its possible - if those 5 were elsewhere - then others may have been killed.

    bottom line - should we pray for the survivors and the families of those who died?
     
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    Salty, why do you ask questions you do not want answers to? You ask questions, and you then belittle and condescend opinions that are different from that of your own.

    Had they not been in the bar, they would be alive.
     
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    That is NOT correct ! as I tried to explain before- - lets say one of them had gone to the restroom -
    he may not have been shot - even though he was in a h/s bar!

    As far as asking questions
    Did you answer this one?
    "Should we Grieve with those who grieve?"
     
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    What is h/s an abbreviation for?
     
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    Had they not been there, they would not have been shot. Kitchen or bathroom is totally irrelevant.

    Sometimes we grieve with those who grieve. Sometimes we delight in justice for the wicked.
     
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    Yep. And of the 9 killed in the SC church didn't go to church they'd be alive today.
     
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    Salty, for some reason, won't say "homosexual". He also complains when you say "gay".
     
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    I disagree with this part. Scripture says that God does not delight in the destruction of the wicked, so why should we?
     
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    Their death is a death we grieve.
     
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    I agree.

    As far as being killed I like the Ulysses Grant quote - "Captain, my religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me."


    (Kidding about the Grant part :Biggrin )
     
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    Deut 28:63
     
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    Yep, that be Jackson.
     
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    Ken, be glad to FULLY answer your question.
    I either use "H/S" or Hom0se/ual because the net picks up certain words for advertising purposes. And naturally, we do not want any advertising on BB for that demographics.

    I will not use the word "g@y" for H/s because g@y means happy. Remember the theme song for "The Flintstones. --- Further - why do they prefer the "g" word - because is sounds nicer than H/s! There are several words, I will not use - for the same basic reason.

    You see, I am NOT Politically Correct - I am Politically RIGHT!
     
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    Wouldn't it be something if one of the injured was to find the Lord and become a witness for the Gospel!.

    Its interesting - there could be a drunk who finds the Lord as Savior - and our churches will just rejoice abundantly at his conversion.
    BUT if a H/s were to do the same - what would be the attitude of our churches?
    I tend to think that many would be suspicious of their conversion -.....
     
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