Friday or Wednesday? Thursday?

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Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Yes, having been already finished in John 19:28.

The work that God gave the son to do was finished on Friday . . .

How do you know that was a Friday? And what was the Jewish calendar date, and the A.D. year?

 

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There are 89 verses in the 4 gospel accounts. 29 of of those verses pertain to the last week of Jesus life on earth. That is 33% plus of the verses in those gospels (imagine that). We can know on which day Jesus was crucified.. We are told Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week. Do you know anything about the number structure of the scriptures? The first day of the week is Sunday. It is the day after the sabbath. It is the beginning of a new week. where there will be new creatures through a new birth.

Mr 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

The reason they did not anoint the body of Jesus when they removed his body from the cross is because of time restrictions. They did not have time before the sabbath when it would have violated the law.
There is no excuse for anyone reading what I am getting ready to quote from Luke and still struggle to answer the question. It tells us WHEN was the preparation day, Friday, the day Jesus was crucified. Read on.

And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:
51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.
52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

That day was the day he was crucified and it was the preparation day and the Sabbath day was close.

Look at what these women did;
55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.


1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

I have posted the record of all three days. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I have jaw dropping incredulity at you fellows never wanting to believe the words. There is just no mystery to this.

The scriptures gives us a day by day chronology of the week leading up to the crucifixion. When I point it out there can be no doubt that Jesus was crucified on Friday and rose from the dead on Sunday. I will try to do that in my next post, maybe Thursday.

You quoted my post and did not address my post. And on top of that, no Jewish dates or year for those events.

 

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Pay close attention.
The 14th of Nisan, Mark 14:12.
Jewish days and dates begin with their evenings.

The 15th of Nisan follows the evening, Mark 14:17.

The 16th of Nisan and the 6th day of the week follows the evening, Mark 15:42.

30 A.D.

 

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Wednesday 30A.D. Nisan 14 Resurrection on Saturday 17.

"On the day of Christ's crucifixion John's account reports, ". . . And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: . . ."

As we have discussed a little bit before, the issue to me is the "Passover".

Which "Passover"?

There are different ones.

The problem may be in taking the wrong turn at "THE Passover".

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he looks like he has some REAL CHRISTIAN STUFF!

This is a .pdf of his:
DIFFICULTIES IN THE BIBLE

WAS JESUS REALLY THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS
IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH? pg. 58 of 71, in this link's .pdf!!

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He has a LOT of articles, here:
STUDY RESOURCES :: TEXT COMMENTARIES :: R. A. TORREY
Bible Text Commentaries by R. A. Torrey

And MUCH at
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Your thoughts relative to; as Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights, so shall the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.

Is, in the belly of the fish and in the heart of the earth a synonymous thought as to the condition Jonah considered himself to be, that is, of Sheol / Hades

Jonah 2:2 YLT And he saith: I called, because of my distress, to Jehovah, And He doth answer me, From the belly of sheol I have cried, Thou hast heard my voice.
LXX καὶ εἶπεν ἐβόησα ἐν θλίψει μου πρὸς κύριον τὸν θεόν μου καὶ εἰσήκουσέν μου ἐκ κοιλίας ᾅδου [of Hades] κραυγῆς μου ἤκουσας φωνῆς μου

Therefore Christ was saying the Son of Man would be, of Hades, three days and three nights? Dead, three days and three nights?

Say, dead, form some time after the ninth hour on the 14th to some time after the ninth hour on the 17th?

Acts 2:31 NKJV “he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption.

John 11:9 Jesus answered, 'Are there not twelve hours in the day? if any one may walk in the day, he doth not stumble, because the light of this world he doth see;

How many hours are there in the night?

 

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Yes, having been already finished in John 19:28.

Separation from God the Spirit makes one thirst like the rich man in hell in Lk 16. The metaphor of the Spirit indwelling is water. The absence of water is death in the scriptures. See Jn 7:39 + context.

How do you know that was a Friday? And what was the Jewish calendar date, and the A.D. year?

It does not matter about the Jewish calendar date, and the AD year. God gave us what he wanted us to have. We can know he died on Friday for the reasons I have already mentioned. I quoted more than one scripture that said Jesus rose early on the first day of the week. Counting backward, this makes him crucified on Friday.
John said the following;

Joh 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

Jesus was coming from a city on the Jordan where John the Baptist first baptized called Ephraim. He passed through Jericho, which is 18 miles from Jerusalem and he came to the house of Zacchaeus where undoubtably Jesus stayed the night. It would have been no more that a sabbaths day journey to Bethany. because Jesus would arrive in Bethany of Saturday.

Lu 19:5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.

All the events of Passover week began on Sunday because Mark gives us a day by day report. Here is John 12:12-13 for you to read.

Joh 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

This would not have been allowed on the sabbath day. So, Jesus came to Bethany on Saturday, which was six days before the Passover, which would be on Friday.

Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity [shall be] upon him.
32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

This was the next day after arriving in Bethany when Jesus rode the colt into Jerusalem. The disciples no doubt got possession of the colt as they came in on Saturday.
The triumphal entry into Jerusalem was the first event of the week and it was on Sunday.

Here is the end of the day, Sunday - day 1 of the six days.

11 And Jesus entered into Jerusalem, and into the temple: and when he had looked round about upon all things, and now the eventide was come, he went out unto Bethany with the twelve.

Here is day 2 - Monday

Mr 11:12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: He curses the fig tree on his way into the city.

Here is the end of the day, Monday.

19 And when even was come, he went out of the city.

Here is day 3 - Tuesday

Mr 11:20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.

The end of the day - Tuesday
Mk 14:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

Next - two days, Wednesday & Thursday

Mr 14:1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.

After two days is Friday, the preparation.

Here is what Luke said;

Lu 20:1 And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders,
Lu 21:37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives.
Lu 21:38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him.

Sunday to Sunday is eight days. Sunday is the first day of the week. It comes after the sabbath day. It begins a new week.

Everyone should understand that Jesus is the Passover Lamb here: This is what this is all about.

Mr 14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

So they eat the feast of Passover in the evening, which is the beginning of the feasts of unleavened bread, as it was called. The Lamb was examined for spots or blemishes during the night and none were found. Then he was offered and killed during the day on Friday.

The feast of unleavened bread was next and his body saw no corruption as it lay in the tomb on the sabbath day. There was no leaven (sin) to corrupt this body. Then firstfruits, the resurrection of Christ, on the day following the sabbath. The eighth day.

Mr 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the [mother] of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

According to Mark 14:12, day #1 is Friday, the day before the sabbath day. It is the first day of the festival.
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The high day simply means that this sabbath fell during the spring festival. That is all it means.

All the first day of the week references.

Mt 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mr 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Mr 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
Lu 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Ac 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

 

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It does not matter about the Jewish calendar date, . . .

TSIA.
So, it would seem, you do not really believe the Biblical evidence. Such as Mark 14:12.

 

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TSIA.
So, it would seem, you do not really believe the Biblical evidence. Such as Mark 14:12.

That is what I believe. Outside sources are not inspired.

38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him.
Matt 26:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

Selling Jesus out was on Thursday afternoon.

2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.
3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.
5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.
6 And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.

Then Judas met with Jesus and the disciples

7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Matthew makes it clear that Jesus sent the disciples to secure a place to eat the Passover after 6 O'clock when the day had already begun. This would be on Friday.

 

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Joh 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

And the text does not tell us it to be a Sabbath. And in verse 2, ". . . There they made him a supper; . . ."

So verse 12, ". . . On the next day . . . " would not be a first day of the week to be a Sunday.

 

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7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.

It has Biblical Jewish calendar date. The 14th day of the Jewish month. For any calendar year it has a day of the week. In 30 A.D. that day fell on our Wednesday.

 

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Matthew makes it clear that Jesus sent the disciples to secure a place to eat the Passover after 6 O'clock when the day had already begun. This would be on Friday.

How? On what basis do you get a Friday?

Outside sources are not inspired.

 

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And the text does not tell us it to be a Sabbath. And in verse 2, ". . . There they made him a supper; . . ."

So verse 12, ". . . On the next day . . . " would not be a first day of the week to be a Sunday.

It did tell us that Jesus came to Bethany where the Mount of Olives is and where he stayed each night. Where are you going to find a sabbath? It sure was not at what is called the Triumphal entry, which John said was the next day for the reasons I have already given. Bethany to Jerusalem was something over 3/4 of a mile. He said Jesus came into town six days before the Passover.

Why do you think we are told Jesus stayed at the home of Zacchaeus as he made his way to Bethany?

 

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It did tell us that Jesus came to Bethany where the Mount of Olives is and where he stayed each night. Where are you going to find a sabbath? It sure was not at what is called the Triumphal entry, which John said was the next day for the reasons I have already given. Bethany to Jerusalem was something over 3/4 of a mile. He said Jesus came into town six days before the Passover.

Why do you think we are told Jesus stayed at the home of Zacchaeus as he made his way to Bethany?

Luke 19:1-8. ". . . through Jericho. . . .". Does no change John 12:1-2 and John 12:12.

 

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It has Biblical Jewish calendar date. The 14th day of the Jewish month. For any calendar year it has a day of the week. In 30 A.D. that day fell on our Wednesday.

The scriptures say that Jesus Christ rose again on the first day of the week. It says it was after the sabbath. It says it was the third day. It says Jesus was the firstfruits of the resurrection. It says he was the firstborn Son of God. That cannot happen under the law. All of these are in the inspired record, and you say by quoting other uninspired records that all the scriptures says is not true. This is my problem with you guys. You do not believe God. That is a simple truth.

 

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Luke 19:1-8. ". . . through Jericho. . . .". Does no change John 12:1-2 and John 12:12.

John 12:1,2 is evidence of a Friday crucifixion as I have already laid out.

"on the next day," Jn 12:12 was Sunday, the day of the triumphal entry.

 

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. . . and you say by quoting other uninspired records that all the scriptures says is not true.

Where? I hold that Christ died and rose the third day solely according to the Scriptures. Matthew, Mark, Luke And John. According to Mark 15:42, He was taken from the cross Thursday evening at the beginning of the Preparation Day.

 

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John 12:1,2 is evidence of a Friday crucifixion as I have already laid out.

"on the next day," Jn 12:12 was Sunday, the day of the triumphal entry.

Well, the the day before was not the Sabbath, ". . . There they made him a supper; . . ."

 

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Where? I hold that Christ died and rose the third day solely according to the Scriptures. Matthew, Mark, Luke And John. According to Mark 15:42, He was taken from the cross Thursday evening at the beginning of the Preparation Day.

Where? I hold that Christ died and rose the third day solely according to the Scriptures. Matthew, Mark, Luke And John. According to Mark 15:42, He was taken from the cross Thursday evening at the beginning of the Preparation Day.

I am puzzled at your obvious confusion. Do you know when the Jewish sabbath is? You are quoting Mark 15:42 to have Jesus being taken down from the cross on Thursday. Have you read Mark 15:42? Here is the quote;

42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

I showed you a chronology of the 6 days in the gospel of Mark and the order of events are just as was told you with the preparation day being Friday, which on anyone's calendar, is the day before the sabbath. The Sabbath is on Saturday. The first day of the week is the day after the Sabbath, or Sunday, the first day of the week, when the scriptures clearly says that Jesus rose from the dead very early on this day.

I do not know why you cannot believe what is clearly stated and why this is such a great mystery to some.

Mk 11:11 And Jesus entered into Jerusalem, and into the temple: 1 day
Mk 11: 12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, Day 2
Mk 11:19 And when even was come, he went out of the city.
20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. Day 3
Mk 13:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, End of day 3
Mk 14:1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death. Days 4 and 5 and still no feast days as yet.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.
Mk 14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, Day 6
Mk 15:1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate. The morning of day 6.
Mk 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.
25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. The third hour of day 6
33 ¶ And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Day 6 was the preparation day and it was nearly evening and the beginning of the seventh day.
One can know this by comparing the next verses; Look.

45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.
46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.
47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.
1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the [mother] of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Day 7

Mr 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Day 8,

Remember each of these days began in the evening and the day is 12 hours.

Jesus said in John 11 that "are there not 12 hours in the day." The evening and the morning constitutes a full day.

I do not see how one can be unsure after I have posted this information.

 

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I am puzzled at your obvious confusion. Do you know when the Jewish sabbath is?

There is the 7th day Sabbath following the 6th day called the Preparation Day.
You do understand the Jewish days begin with their evenings? Mark 14:17 the beginning of the 15th day of the month following the 14th, Mark 14:12-16. And the beginning of the 16th of the month being also the beginning of the Preparation Day being the 6th day before the Sabbath being the 7th day, Mark 15:42.
". . . And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, . . ."

 

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There is the 7th day Sabbath following the 6th day called the Preparation Day.
You do understand the Jewish days begin with their evenings? Mark 14:17 the beginning of the 15th day of the month following the 14th, Mark 14:12-16. And the beginning of the 16th of the month being also the beginning of the Preparation Day being the 6th day before the Sabbath being the 7th day, Mark 15:42.
". . . And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, . . ."

If you were correct who would know. You do not seem to have ability to make sense.

 

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If you were correct who would know. You do not seem to have ability to make sense.

This happens. Not to just me.