Allowing or permitting actions of humans. Ever hear of saying you will do this or that, God willing?Rearranging actions?
The absurd claim God does not allow or permit actions is just another fictitious claim.
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Allowing or permitting actions of humans. Ever hear of saying you will do this or that, God willing?Rearranging actions?
The absurd claim God does not allow or permit actions is just another fictitious claim.
@Van I do appreciate you using the word "permute". I was not familiar with it and had to look it up.![]()
There is nothing valid about rewriting what I said. God willing, or God permits, is an action of God, and to deny it denies God's sovereignty.There is nothing "fictitious" about the total absolute sovereignty of God, regardless of how much anyone rails against God's sovereignty and declares that "We will not have this Man to reign over us."
Allowing or permitting actions of humans. Ever hear of saying you will do this or that, God willing?
The absurd claim God does not allow or permit actions is just another fictitious claim.
God willing, or God permits, is an action of God, and to deny it denies God's sovereignty.
If God's plan is to allow humanity to exercise their autonomous choice of trusting in God and His Christ, or not, God can do it
Do you even know where the term is found in scripture? It refers to God allowing or permitting something to occur.When I say, "God willing", or in Latin, "Deo volente"(I learned that as there is a horse farm that breeds standardbreds and that is the name of the farm), it means if God sovereignly wills it. I am not saying if God "permits it" or lets it be done by some "random act" or some alleged "libertarian free will".
Do you even know where the term is found in scripture? It refers to God allowing or permitting something to occur.
Act 18:21 (NASB)
but took leave of them and said, “I will return to you again if God wills,” and he set sail from Ephesus.
Act 18:21 (NKJV)
but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem;[fn] but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.
A straight-up denial of 2 Thessalonians 2:13.I am so thankful to my heavenly Father that He did not do such a thing and leave my salvation up to me meeting some condition that my evil, wicked heart could never have met. I am so thankful to my heavenly Father that He made His Son my Surety and that He met all of the conditions for my salvation. I am so thankful to my heavenly Father that my salvation is totally, 100% by His free and sovereign grace.
A straight-up denial of 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
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But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because God chose you · as first fruits for salvation, by sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth.
It is pointless to discuss scripture with someone who puts words in other peoples mouths, and ignores the obvious. Scripture says God permits or allows actions. Full Stop God willing.Yes, if God sovereignly brings Paul back to them, then he will return to them. Paul was certainly not saying he would return based on some alleged "libertarian free will"
Now you don't like it that I thank God fully for my salvation. .
Scripture says God permits or allows actions.
Ephesians 2:8 is not the only verse that describes faith as a gift: Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake.
Ken the gift of God in Eph 2:8 is salvation not faith, that is just a view that is read into the text in support of your errant philosophy.
The context Php 1:27-29 shows that it is not the gift of faith but rather the strengthening of their faith that is in view.
Yet another change of subject post with nothing specific concerning the topic. It is pointless to discuss scripture with someone who puts words in other peoples mouths, and ignores the obvious. Scripture says God permits or allows actions. Full Stop God willing.The Bible teaches that God sovereignly directs His creation, that as the Potter He does what He purposes with the clay.
The Bible teaches that God sovereignly directs His creation, that as the Potter He does what He purposes with the clay.