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Featured Calvinism and the Unpardonable Sin

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Guido, Aug 21, 2023.

  1. taisto

    taisto Well-Known Member

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    I rejoice in these verses, that's what I do with them.
    But, you seem to think they glorify man and man's determinative will over and above the will of God.
    The context of the Bible does not support your teachings, which comes from your own mind.
     
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    If you do not understand that the context of the bible supports those verses you do not understand context.

    All you have done is say no, show me from the bible where I am wrong? You can not so you do the typical and just give your opinion. You have yet to provide any scripture to support you view so I have to conclude that you are just parroting what others have said.

    Strange that you would say you rejoice in verses that prove your calvinist philosophy wrong.
     
  3. taisto

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    If you think those verses prove God to be less than ruler over every aspect of your existence then you clearly have a terrible interpretation of those verses.
    Each verse you share points toward the full authority of God to do as He wills with or without your consent.
    I will endeavor to stop talking with you on this subject as this has become a tiresome and fruitless conversation with you.
     
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    Silverhair Well-Known Member

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    You obviously have not thought what you just posted through to the logical conclusion. If as you say God rules over every aspect of your life your saying that whatever happens is a direct result of God decreeing it to happen. So every sin every evil deed falls in His lap. That is the reality of your calvinism.

    God being sovereign means that if He so chose to give man free will then who are you oh man to argue back at Him. You are trying to fit the scriptures into your calvinism, that is why you continue to misunderstand what the bible is telling you.

    So here is a question for you. In your calvinism you hold to total depravity so man is not able, upon hearing the gospel, to turn and trust in Christ Jesus. So if your view is correct then can you explain why we need divine hardening in relation to the gospel message so that they would not believe {John 12:40} since man has no ability to believe anyway?
     
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  5. taisto

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    You are trying to lean on your human logic and then looking to interpret Bible verses according to your logic. Here you essentially tell us as much. Your methodology has lead you down a humanist path that seeks to place God in a box that makes sense to you.

    Good luck with that. I will not be following your path.

    Hyvää päivänjatkoa
     
  6. RipponRedeaux

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    Dr. Wilson, who you reference constantly is a hairy tick. He's part of Vineyard movement up there in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
    Wilson wrote an unsound book called A Letter To my Congregation. It deals with the alphabet soup conglomeration known as LGBTQ+. Wilson is fine with those types being pastors. And he's okay with same-gender unions. He regards issues regarding these folks and Scriptures that condemn them as disputable matters.

    Wilson, is not the sort of person anyone --especially a Christian, should associate with.
     
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