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Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Brother Glen

 

No just that God is Sovereign in everything he does... Sometimes he intervenes and sometimes he allows and as far as understanding it all... We will only know that, when we get there... Brother Glen

 

God's sovereignty is defined as He either causes or allows whatsoever comes to pass. He chose not to predestine all things but to allow individuals to make autonomous choices that can alter the outcome of their lives.

God can arrange circumstances that allow individuals to sin, without predestining that sin.

 

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Brother Glen

 

BINGO! God did not intervene in The Serpent's bruising of His Son. He foreknew it and allowed it to happen.

 

Thanks for supporting the biblical view presented in Post #5.

 

I heard a quote from Joni Eareckson Tada today.

"God permits what he hates to accomplish what he loves."

 

Matthew 26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Brother Glen

 

He did not have to predestine sin to take place. All he had to do was remove the restraint. He knew what would happen if He did not restrain men from evil.

It absolutely was His intent that Christ be crucified, but He did not have to force it to happen. He just had to turn men loose, because He knew the devil would push them to crucify Christ, because the devil thought that would give him the victory, not knowing it would actually be God‘s greatest victory.

 

Fine article:
Pillars of Orthodoxy, or Defenders of the Faith
Ben M. Bogard, editor, 1900

This is 'the scriptures' portion of it.
Chapter V
The Doctrine of Divine Decrees
By James P. Boyce

Sustained by the Scriptures. This doctrine is not only a reasonable doctrine, it has also the clear support of the Scriptures. This scriptural authority for the doctrine will appear from the following statements and references, gathered with slight modifications from Hodge's "Outlines," pp. 205-213:

(1) God's decrees are eternal: Acts 15:18; Ephesians 1:4; 3:11; 1 Peter 1:20; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Timothy 1:19; 1 Corinthians 2:7.

(2) They are immutable: Psalm. 33:11; Isaiah 46:9.

(3) They comprehend all events.

a. The Scriptures assert this of the whole system in general embraced in the divine decrees: Daniel 4:34, 35; Acts 17:26; Ephesians 1:11.

b. They affirm the same of fortuitous events: Proverbs 16:33; Matthew 10:29, 30.

c. Also of the free actions of men; Ephesians 2:10, 11; Philippians 2:3.

d. Even the wicked actions of men : Acts 2:23; 4:27, 28; 13:29; 1 Peter 2:8; Jude 4; Revelation 17:17. As to the history of Joseph, compare Genesis 37:28 with Genesis 45:7, 8 and Genesis 50:20. See also Psalm 17:13, 14; Isa. 10:5, 15.

(4) The decrees of God are not conditional: Psalm 33:11; Proverbs 19:21; Isaiah 14:24, 27; 46:10; Romans 9:11.

(5) They are sovereign: Isaiah 40:13, 14; Daniel 4:35; Matthew 11:25, 26; Romans 9:11, 15-18; Ephesians 1:5, 11.

(6) They include the means : Ephesians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2.

(7) They determine the free actions of men: Acts 4:27, 28; Ephesians 2:10.

(8) God himself works in his people that faith and obedience which are called the conditions of salvation: Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 2:13; 2 Timothy 2:25.

(9) The decree renders the event certain: Matthew 16:21; Luke 18:31-33; 24:46; Acts 2:23; 13:29; 1 Corinthians 11:19.

(10) While God has decreed the free acts of men, the actors have been none the less responsible: Genesis 50:20; Acts 2:23; 3:18; 4:27, 28.

 

Isn’t that fantastic! He is the potter and we are the clay.

 

That’s assigning emotions to the creator!

 

That’s your supposition right… or do you consider it a fact?

 

"God permits what he hates to accomplish what he loves."

Does God hate sin? Does the Bible tell us this? Does God love righteousness? Does the Bible tell us this?

Do you have a God that is empty of emotion, EWF?

 

I really don’t care if he is devoid or not, it’s nothing I can control… so are you expert in understanding the creator motives now as well? Boy you Calvinists are surely the experts on all things “G-d” by your own assessment’s. Me, I like to have definitives when I make my moves… in that way I’m always confident of my thoughts & actions so I don’t hesitate otherwise I would have been destroyed long ago.

 

EWF, you made a silly comment. You should own it.