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Were you in on the vote to accept the adulterers into the congregation?
Were the adulterers already members when you joined the congregation?
Have they become adulterers since you joined the congregation?
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Churches double standards
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Need more info.
Were you in on the vote to accept the adulterers into the congregation?
Were the adulterers already members when you joined the congregation?
Have they become adulterers since you joined the congregation?
Moses was too, and Jesus referred to Moses.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery.
10 The disciples say unto him, If the case of the man is so with his wife, it is not expedient to marry. Mt 19
Ever wonder why the dismay in the disciple's response?
My first wife died and I was free to marry another... I met another woman who had been divorced for 10 years but her husband was the adulterer, not her... She told the church of his actions and they ignore her... So in back of the preachers house, their was also a house for members if they need accommodations... So her ex moved in, with the woman in question... Driving by one day, she spotted two cars in the driveway... She went to the preachers door and knocked and when the preacher came to the door she said, do you think now you can do something about my husband, he's now shacking up with the woman in question I told you about, under your nose on your property... I guess the preacher turned a deaf ear because years later she took me to the church where him and her once attended and opened the church membership book and there was his name in good standing... He hadn't been to church in 30 years and his new squeeze never joined... Brother Glen
Consummation, not continuing.
The first destroys the first covenant, establishes the second.
Deuteronomy says you cannot return to the first.
Good question. For example, my brother had a very contentious relation with his wife who came out as a lesbian and she influenced one of their daughters to become a transsexual
No.
Well I’m not certain he is a better man! He should want some happiness in his remaining years, but he keeps quoting scripture on this topic so…
I think he is confused.
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He is confused because he is not applying 1 Corinthians 7.
It's not hypocrisy to only focus on one of them. To suggest that it is means every time a single sin is mentioned in a sermon then every sin under the sun must also be mentioned. Just because the two fall under the category of sexual sin doesn't change that. It is an absurd notion. Further, no one is trying to push adultery on children in schools as a form of social engineering. That cannot be said of the other. The greater threat is homosexuality.
I am not sure this is the case.
In every church I have attended the congregation was opposed to homosexuality.
It seems that the greatest threat, insofar as sin,to a church would be sins that the congregation allows into the church (sins that they are willing to tolerate).
That was my way of being polite.
A bore blunt answer would simply be that you are wrong.
The greatest thread, insofar as sins are concerned, that a church faces is the normalization of sin within the congregation.
If the congregation holds a biblical view on homosexuality then that sin is NOT the churches greatest threat. If they hold a biblical position on adultery then that sin is NOT the churches greatest threat.
Pastors are in charge of a church (under Christ....an "under shepard"). As such they should be guiding their congregation and encouraging discipleship. Church members should be doing the same with one another.
This involves addressing issues that people actually have.
Preachers often seem to enjoy "preaching to the choir" because such a message is typically meaningless to the equipping of the members (it demands no change, identifies no areas of growth).
The reasons homosexuality is such a blatant and disgusting sin are several:
They are "in your face" about it, trying to force it on people, and even parading it in public. They get an entire month of it.
They want special rights, not equal rights.
They want everyone to acknowledge is "normal" even "superior" behavior.
It is a sin and a crime against nature and nature's God. It is an abomination.
It is absolutely abnormal. Human bodies are not designed for homosexuality.
They are "in your face" about it, trying to force it on people, and even parading it in public. They get an entire month of it.
They want special rights, not equal rights.
They want everyone to acknowledge is "normal" even "superior" behavior.
It is a sin and a crime against nature and nature's God. It is an abomination.
It is absolutely abnormal. Human bodies are not designed for homosexuality.
atpollard
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A “token stoning”. Just follow the prescription in Deuteronomy for one case as an example and warning - like a token firing - to warn the rest back into line with a healthy “fear of the Lord”.
(It cured the self-proclaimed prophets ready to bring a contra-scriptural “word from God”.)
I agree it is a vile sin.
But @Reynolds has a good point.
Why preach to a church about a sin that is not in that church at the exclusion of sins that are?
I remember how congregations loved "Hell fire and brimstone" sermons. It was because they knew they were not going to Hell. In a way, it was just saying "look at the world and how they sin".
atpollard
Well-Known Member
So THAT’s the unforgivable sin!
He intentionally avoids preaching about adultery. There are no homosexuals in our church unless they are deep in the closet. He preaches about them all the time. Half our church is divorced and remarried. One couple divorced and still living together. Which sin would benefit our church better if preached on? The reason he rails on homosexuality is he knows there are not any in the church. He recently changed the title of "Deacon" to "church board member" so he could get three of his unbiblically divorced and remarried buddies on the "church board". Which is crazy. The qualifications is for the job, not the title. He also does not preach about gluttony either, he is 100 lbs overweight, (literally).
He also won't have the Lords supper because he feels there is too much unrepentant sin in the church.
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It is forgiveable, but is it continual?
Bible does not say why. We can only speculate.
I already answered that.