On "Throwing Your Vote Away"

I am specifically asking about the passage in Peter that states those who call God "Father" and have been redeemed by Christ's blood will be impartially judged by God according to their work.

I agree that we have been saved to do good works. I agree with all of the passages you have mentioned.

I am asking about your objection to one passage.

 

Again...I am strictly speaking of one passage which claims that those who call God "Father" and have been redeemed by the previous blood of Christ WILL be judged impartially by God for their works.

Either that verse is true or it is false. You post that the passage is false.

That leads to another issue - IF one passage of Scripture is false then how can we rely on any of it?

 

No, it does not make my statement false.

Scripture does not state Christian judge one another by their fruit. BUT Scripture does state that Christians judge one another by their fruit.

The difference is the "that". Without it we would be looking for a quote, but with it we are looking for a teaching.


If a member of your church embraces a homosexual lifestyle while professing Christ then he is to be confronted for the sin, and if he doesn't repent he is to be cast from the congregation....even though he continues to process Christ.

There are two reasons given in the Bible for this.

First, it is in hopes that the man will repent and be restored to the fold.

Second, it guards the congregation against sin.


Your idea of welcoming sin into a congregation as long as the person confesses Christ is unbiblical.

 

I must have misunderstood what you are saying about that passage. My apologies.

For my correction -

Are you saying that those who have been redeemed, those who call God "Father", will be impartially judged by God for their works?

I am trying to understand your position.

Of those Peter that Peter states will be judged impartially by God for their works he gives several descriptions.

They are redeemed by the previous blood of Christ.
They call God "Father".
They reside as aliens.
They were chosen by the foreknowledge of God.
They have been "born again".
They have been sanctified by the Spirit.

And Peter tells them that they will be judged according to their works.


Now....are you saying that there are multiple groups of born again, redeemed, chosen, sanctified people and some will be judged?

Are you equating this judgment to the judgment of the lost?

 

@KenH

Here is the passage I was speaking of, and I'll bold the description of Peter's audience as well as his instructions:

1 Peter 1:1–19
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen
2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials,
7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
8 and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory,
9 obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.
10 As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries,
11 seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.
12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.
13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance,
15 but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior;
16 because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”
17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;
18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers,
19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.


I do not see this second group of redeemed people to whom you indicate Peter's words apply.

 

Again...I am not asking for your theology. I am asking if you believe 1 Peter chapter 1 is true as it is written.


Here is the passage I was speaking of, and I'll bold the description of Peter's audience as well as his instructions:

1 Peter 1:1–19
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen
2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials,
7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
8 and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory,
9 obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.
10 As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries,
11 seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.
12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.
13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance,
15 but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior;
16 because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”
17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;
18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers,
19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.


Do you believe that those people really will be judged impartially according to their works?

If not, then why do you believe Peter said that they would?

 

Good. I think we can agree there - those who have been "born again", who are redeemed by the previous blood of Christ, will be judged according to their work and therefore should conduct their lives in "fear" (I would say a fear of doing wrong....a healthy fear).