Featured Justification by Faith !

Do you understand what the word "false" means. I don't think you do.

I said "God's promise is that He would justify all those that put their faith in His risen Son."

You said this was false then said "Gods promise is to Justify the gentiles through Faith"

Sure seems to be the same to me.
Me thinks you have a bit of a language problem there BF.

 

Well should I base my salvation on someone else's faith?

What do you think these verses mean BF?

"...the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek." Rom 1:16

"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise," Eph 1:13

"that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;" Rom 10:9

"WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Rom 10:13

 

The Greek preposition "ek" means out of or out from, and points to the origin of something. Out from faith refers to something based on faith, or more explicitly, based on God crediting our faith as righteousness. And what is that something? Salvation by being transferred into Christ where we undergo the washing of regeneration, rebirth as a new creation, and are then indwelt with the Holy Spirit. Thus all the blessings of salvation including justification can be said to be "based on faith.!"

Romans 1:17, "...But the righteous one will live based on faith." I think walking according to our (credited) faith is in view here rather than salvation's blessings.

Romans 3:30, "since indeed God who will justify the circumcised based on faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one." Here I think the idea is New Covenant faith arises from Old Covenant faith for Jews, and arises without prior faith in God for Gentiles.

Romans 4:16, "For this reason [the promises to Abraham's heirs] is based on faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,

Romans 5:1, "Therefore, having been justified based on God crediting our faith as righteousness, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Romans 9:30, "What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, moreover the righteousness that is based on God crediting their faith as righteousness.

Romans 9:32, "Why? Because they did not pursue it based on faith, but as though they could by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone,

Galatians 3:22
But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise based on God crediting our faith in Jesus Christ as righteousness might be given to those who believe.

Galatians 2:16
nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified based on the works of the Law but by means of Christ Jesus's faithfulness, even we have believed into Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified based on the faithfulness of Christ and not based on the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no person will be justified.

Galatians 3:8
The Scripture, knowing beforehand that God would justify the Gentiles based on God crediting their faith as righteousness, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.”

Galatians 3:24
Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified based on God crediting our faith as righteousness.

Galatians 5:5
For we through the Spirit, based on God crediting our faith,as righteousness, are waiting for the hope of righteousness.

The opening conjunction (gar translated as "for") might better be translated as "The fact is," we through the Spirit....
Now I think the idea of through the Spirit refers to being indwelt. Those who are indwelt are the "we" of the verse. Then we get "out of faith" which is best translated based on God crediting our faith as righteousness, are expectantly waiting for the hope of our righteousness at the second coming of our Lord.

Romans 10:6
But the righteousness that is based on faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down)

Justification is accomplished by the washing of regeneration (being made alive together with Christ) based on God crediting our worthless faith as righteousness and transferring us into Christ spiritually. The washing of regeneration accomplishes the "circumcision of Christ" where the consequence of our sinful state and our past, present and future sins, are removed, taken out of the way and nailed on the cross so to speak, due to the faithfulness of Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

 

I know what the promise regarding the gospel is but you seem to be missing it.

 

Since our faith is not works/merit you are making false statements.

 

BF you keep singing the same tune. To bad it does not match the biblical view.

 

Now if you could take off the blinders you would see that God justifies people through the condition He has set FAITH in Him.. You refuse to see the truth as it would upset your theological philosophy.

 

So εκ πιστεως the εκ is not a condition?

 

Of course I do it's biblical. BF you keep trying to build your theology on out of context verses and ignore the rest of scripture. It is no wonder that you have such a mixed up theology.

 

Can you corroborate this argument with a Scripture or two?

 

You keep saying that but you provide no biblical support for your position.

This is how you understand scripture BF

Calvinist view of the bible
Rom 10:13 For whoever is saved will call on the name of the LORD.

What the bible actually says
Rom 10:13 For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

@Brightfame52 the biblical text shows you the error of your man-made theology and you just will not accept the truth.