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All against the man argumentation, false argumentation. This seems to be all you have. Give it a rest.
Still you do not address the biblical evidence for inherent omniscience. Nor to you offer support from scripture for your obviously false assertion.

Did I say He will remember no more forever or did the Bible say that?
Did Jesus say He did not know the time of His return?
Did God say, "now I know" demonstrating that He had just learned?

Stop ignoring and nullifying scripture with your bogus unstudied false doctrine.

When the same point is made numerous times in scripture, the context is clear.

Bogus Doctrine of Omniscience = God knows everything imaginable.
Biblical Doctrine of Omniscience = God knows everything He chooses to know.

This is not rocket science.

 

That is why we are told to make our salvation sure. We are not to trust in a once upon a time confession of faith. We are to work out our salvation through continued faith in the faithful one.

OSAS just leads to a person getting complacent and falling back into the ways of the world. It is the I have nothing to worry about I have my ticket, I have my fire insurance. I can live anyway I want no worries.

 

Omniscience

The quality or state of being omniscient; the quality of knowing everything; -- an attribute peculiar to God.

So you continue to say God is only semi-omniseient. He does not know everything. As long as you hold to that view you are in error.

By your comments you sound like a Molinist.

 

LOL why not address the fact I define Omniscience biblically and you unbiblically?

 

If OSAS is false as you profess, making one's salvation sure is never possible.

 

You are coming up with your special meaning for omniscience now. Well that explains a lot. As I said before you are becoming more and more a calvinist. You each have your own special dictionary.

 

So your telling us that no one knew their salvation was sure until OSAS came along? It is a man-made concept. Eternal security depends upon ones continuing faith in the faithful one.

Because I believe my salvation is sure.

As long as one believes in the faithful one they have eternal security if they reject that faith then logically they do not have eternal security.

Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

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Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

1Jn 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

So you see it is not just that you believe but you continue to believe for eternal life.

 

No, you are the one arguing that here.

It can never be sure if it is always possible for the salvation to be lost.

 

LOL, did I come up with "inherent omniscience? What an unstudied bogus claim.

Some modern Christian theologians argue that God's omniscience is inherent rather than total, and that God chooses to limit his omniscience in order to preserve the free will and dignity of his creatures. John Calvin, among other theologians of the 16th century, comfortable with the definition of God as being omniscient in the total sense, in order for worthy beings' abilities to choose freely, embraced the doctrine of predestination. ​

Thus Silverhair embraces the Calvinist view while falsely charging me with that bogus viewpoint

 

Omniscience = the capacity to know everything rather than actually knowing everything imaginable because scripture indicates God can remember no more forever, thus can choose not to know everything. The other view is unbiblical, unstudied and errant.

 

1 John 3:20b ...God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

John 21:17 Lord you know all things...

"God knows the whole of history at once, simultaneously because not limited by time and succession, but God also knows what part of history is past today and what is future."

Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Walter a. Elwell, pg. 494

"God is all knowing. The term "Omniscient" (all-knowing) is sometimes used....Statements in scripture of God forgetting a person's sin are not lapses in God's knowledge but nonliteral, true statements of His choice to no longer hold people accountable for their sin and guilt because it has been covered or forgiven.

" Christian Theology. Biblical, Historical and Systematic, Adam Harwood, pg.199

 

Your the one arguing for OSAS not me 37. One can be sure of their salvation when they continue to believe. As I said under your view a person can say a few words and they get the ticket and live like they want as it does not matter. It's all good your going to heaven even when you live like the devil.

 

This is what I posted regarding
Omniscience
The quality or state of being omniscient; the quality of knowing everything; -- an attribute peculiar to God.

Where do you see "inherent omniscience" in that Van? You really should not spread your false accusations Van. You will be held to account for them.

 

Well it seems Christ got it wrong so you will have to be sure to correct Him when you can. You should read Luk 8:5-15 and pay attention to what is said of the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th persons. Note who is said to believe.

You were referring to Mat 7:23 with this quote “I never knew you.” But it really does not help your case of OSAS. Christ made the comment to people that professed faith but did not in fact actually believe in Him. Context shows that they went through the motions of faith/belief much as a number of our false preachers today.

 

No, I am depending of the faithful one to save me because I believe.

It is Tit 2:14 you are referring to I am sure but you should read that verse in context. Tit 2:11-14. We see it is the grace of God that brings salvation and we know this is through faith as we are told in Eph 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith".

Notice what we see in Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
He who believes {present tense = continues to believe} will be saved. He who does not believe {present tense = continues not to believe} will be lost.

So in this verse we see that to be saved it is not just good enough to believe at one time but you have to continue to believe to reach final/eternal salvation.

And those that are finally lost are so because they have continued to refuse to trust in God.

 

You say they cannot cease to believe, why? Did they loose their free will?

Did you note the key word in that verse "IF" when someone choose to reject the salvation they had does God force them to go to heaven? Under your scenario He does. Does that sound like love to you?

Your OSAS has not biblical support. You have to read it into the text.