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A No Win Situation for the United States in 2024 Presidential Election

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KenH

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This 2024 presidential election between the Republicans and the Democrats is like a football game where the offense on a 3 down and 5 yards to go has two options:

1) A running play where a fumble results in a scoop-and-score for the defense.

2) A passing play where an interception results in a pick-6 for the defense.

Either way, the United States is gonna be in really, really bad shape; there will not be a unicorn in everyone’s backyard and a rainbow over everyone’s house, regardless of what Donald Trump or Kamala Harris tell you.
 
KenH

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Roy Kling said:
Harris=the death of the republic and the birth of a single party socialist rule.
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And Trump=the death of the republic and the birth of a single party fascist rule.

Either way, the United States will be in very, very bad shape, regardless of whether Donald Trump or Kamala Harris wins.
 
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The only fascists I see are those on the left. They're following hitler's playbook step by step and word for word.

Please don't mistake me for a Trumper. I am not. I never liked the man and only voted for him in the general elections. Trump's personallity is sort of grating, but we stand a much lesser chance of loosing the republic under his watch. The left are the ones who would rule by presidential orders and decree.
 
KenH

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Roy Kling said:
The left are the ones who would rule by presidential orders and decree.
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Both the right and the left have done that, currently do that, and will continue to do so, as the Congress has ceded much of its power to the executive branch so that they don't have to vote to for bills that might cost them votes in their next election.

The Congress wants the executive branch to rule by presidential orders and decree; afterwards, if something proves popular, then they can jump on the bandwagon and say that were for it all along, or if something proves unpopular, then they can say that they opposed it all along.
 
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Roy Kling

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Good post, Ken. We shouldn't have any one person rule by decree. Pop an idea out there and give it a priority vote maybe?

I think term limits would solve a lot of problems, and padding critical bills up for vote should be terms for recall. Neither will ever be addressed though.
 
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Roy Kling

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From your SS thread I think I can see your angle of view in this thread. Each angle has a different view, but it's still the same monster we're looking at.
 
KenH

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Roy Kling said:
From your SS thread I think I can see your angle of view in this thread. Each angle has a different view, but it's still the same monster we're looking at.
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I am a minarchist classical liberal libertarian(but not a member of the Libertarian Party as I have not renewed my membership since the Mises Caucus took over the party in 2022). I am quite aware that being a minarchist and a fan of President Grover Cleveland is a lonely place to be; thus, I am pretty much relegated to:

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KenH

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Revmitchell said:
Good grief what evidence do you have for this?
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As much as for saying that "Harris=the death of the republic and the birth of a single party socialist rule." Progressivism is not socialism anymore than MAGA National Conservatism is fascism. I was simply making a point. Being slightly to the left of MAGA National Conservatism does not make one a communist, just as being slightly to the right of Progressivism does not make one a fascist.

You have to bear in mind that I deeply despise both Progressivism and MAGA National Conservatism, I deeply despise both the Democratic and the Republican Parties in 2024. And for the record, as a minarchist classical liberal libertarian, I deeply despise the Mises Caucus that has been running the Libertarian Party since the 2022 national convention.
 
JonC

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KenH said:
This 2024 presidential election between the Republicans and the Democrats is like a football game where the offense on a 3 down and 5 yards to go has two options:

1) A running play where a fumble results in a scoop-and-score for the defense.

2) A passing play where an interception results in a pick-6 for the defense.

Either way, the United States is gonna be in really, really bad shape; there will not be a unicorn in everyone’s backyard and a rainbow over everyone’s house, regardless of what Donald Trump or Kamala Harris tell you.
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The bad part is each party works to make sure the party in power fails.

We saw this with the Democrats keeping the economy shut down, and this year with the Republicans preventing the boarder from being secured.

It's all about power....holding onto it or getting it.
 
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Roy Kling

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JonC said:
The bad part is each party works to make sure the party in power fails.

We saw this with the Democrats keeping the economy shut down, and this year with the Republicans preventing the boarder from being secured.

It's all about power....holding onto it or getting it.
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We NEED term limitations! That's something hat should have been written into the Constitution in 1787.
 
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