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A No Win Situation for the United States in 2024 Presidential Election

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MMDAN

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Yes. The jury heard the evidence and rendered a verdict. In the U.S. system of justice, that is how it works, whether we like the result or not.
The jury heard only the evidence that the judge wanted them to hear. This was not about justice but about political persecution and election interference.
 

Roy Kling

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As stated before, I am not a ''Trumper''. I haven't voted for him in any primary election. I have voted for him in the general election, and will do so again. Simply to preserve the republic that the left seems so bent on destroying, (he's the only hope I see right now). Every time we here in this country loose personal liberties and freedoms it's at the hands and signatures of the left. Think about this, you can vote in communism, but you can't vote it out.

What I have witnessed over the past eight years or so is a man, (like him or not) being persecuted relentlessly by the left and by doing so have granted powers to alphabet agencies to invent laws at their whim that need to be reserved to congress to implement. Alphabet agencies are NOT in place to make laws! Not the ATF, Not the FBI, Not the SS, or EPA...NONE of them! Yet under the left, these power hungry clowns do just that! The result? Too many times due to over-reach, incompetence, and just plain BULLYING. These agencies under the left leave a trail of dead Americans and are not held accountable for their actions. They're power hungry puppets, empowered by the left to do the left's bidding.

Don't like our Bill of Rights? Don't like you're personal freedoms? Want the goobermint to make your choices? Then go ahead and cast your vote for the kackle-bot!

As for myself, I will not betray the Lord Jesus Christ. I will not give up my freedom! I will not give up my arms! I'll vote for Trump again, felon or not!
 

KenH

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Every time we here in this country loose personal liberties and freedoms it's at the hands and signatures of the left.

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Roy Kling

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Ken, first of all, I want to say that I love you as a brother, and I'm not going to suppress your opinion, you have your view as I have mine.
 

JonC

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As stated before, I am not a ''Trumper''. I haven't voted for him in any primary election. I have voted for him in the general election, and will do so again. Simply to preserve the republic that the left seems so bent on destroying, (he's the only hope I see right now). Every time we here in this country loose personal liberties and freedoms it's at the hands and signatures of the left. Think about this, you can vote in communism, but you can't vote it out.

What I have witnessed over the past eight years or so is a man, (like him or not) being persecuted relentlessly by the left and by doing so have granted powers to alphabet agencies to invent laws at their whim that need to be reserved to congress to implement. Alphabet agencies are NOT in place to make laws! Not the ATF, Not the FBI, Not the SS, or EPA...NONE of them! Yet under the left, these power hungry clowns do just that! The result? Too many times due to over-reach, incompetence, and just plain BULLYING. These agencies under the left leave a trail of dead Americans and are not held accountable for their actions. They're power hungry puppets, empowered by the left to do the left's bidding.

Don't like our Bill of Rights? Don't like you're personal freedoms? Want the goobermint to make your choices? Then go ahead and cast your vote for the kackle-bot!

As for myself, I will not betray the Lord Jesus Christ. I will not give up my freedom! I will not give up my arms! I'll vote for Trump again, felon or not!
It's all politics. I think most know this.

But that is politics.

Look at the people who died in the Afghanistan botched withdrawal. They died because of politics.

Look at Trump's speech when he said no soldier died in Afghanistan during the last 18 months of his Administration due to his strength. We all know 12 soldiers died in Afghanistan during that time.

On one hand you have Trump constantly lying about his past accomplishments. On the other you have an administration that repeatedly made poor decisions. Both are politics.
 

Logos1560

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Think tanks put forth policy books.

Yes. The point is that Democrats try to make a big issue out of the fact that a conservative think tank put forth a suggested policy book while they completely ignore how Biden/Harris may have been following radical left-wing policy books.
 

Mikoo

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Why do you say that? Do you support one of those awful candidates?
Your quote in another thread:

'I am not neutral. I am supporting Kamala Harris. I want to see Trump and National Conservatism defeated at the ballot box on November 5.'
 

KenH

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Your quote in another thread:

'I am not neutral. I am supporting Kamala Harris. I want to see Trump and National Conservatism defeated at the ballot box on November 5.'

Well, Grover Cleveland isn't on the ballot.
 

JonC

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A lot of the issue with this election is liberties and freedoms at stake.

Here I like the libertarians. I don't believe that I, as a 56 year old, should have to wear a seat belt or face a fine. ButcI should wear a seat belt. That's a simple explanation.


Yes, the Democrats are more restrictive and take away liberties. This has to do with their philosophy of Big Government.

Lately the issue has become Hartis' support for restricting free speech by having the government determine if public speech is "true" - restricting and penalizing speech it seems "untrue".

That is a basic liberty that the DNC is targeting.

I'd argue that "hate speech" in general (and "hate crime" being more severe than the crime itself) crosses the line Hartis is sprinting past as well.
 
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