Featured Matthew 15:24 Rewrite?

Me thinks I need to apologize to you for not reading your comments closely and assuming your meaning diffently than you intended them. I have a tendency to do that. Pray for me. I think (and it seems you do also) that all the points of the Abrahamic covenant, which is an everlasting covenant, will be fulfilled just as literally as the last point that promises that all the families (Shem, Ham, Japheth) will be blessed through the greater seed of Abraham, Jesus Christ. The sliding hermeneutic used by the Reformed worries me a lot.

I will try to do better in the future.

Let me just say where the rest of my understanding lies.

Knowing that one of the ways of God is to give a physical representation of his spiritual work, I draw from this incident with the woman the prophetic type of the church. It will be a gentile church (all the types of the church are a gentile woman), a kingdom entered into by faith, but with the King away. This will not be a kingdom within the family of David and is the reason Jesus did not answer her until she addressed him, not as the son of David, but as Lord. This is how one enters into the church. It was true for the greatest of all Pharisees, Paul. It is true of you and me if we have entered in. From Matthew 12 the gospel of the kingdom to Israel was off the table because of their national unbelief and had already sentenced him to death. This was the generation that was tasked to recognize and receive their Messih and King and they refused. However, there is a future for the world in spite of this fact and it will not be under the principle of the physical kingdom but under the principle of grace and after the Law of God has been fully vindicated by one perfect person in one day in one sacrificial event on the cross for everybody on the earth, God having been satisfied by this sacrifice for us all.

This does not negate a single promise of God to Abraham concerning his own family because God , who pictures the nation as his son who has died and has been buried after two one thousand year days of God and time is not counted when one is dead. This nation, Like our savour, is raised from the dead very early on the third day (the day of the LORD) and will live again and will be saved, every citizen and all the promises, every one, will be realized for heaven and earth to see.

Ho 6:1Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Of all the 7 miracle signs in the gospel of John, this is one of them. Why did the Lord single this one miracle out? It was to hide his truths from the mere religious while he reveals them to the spiritual.

Jn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Jn 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

The Reformed are feeding on ashes. Thir religion blinds them to the greater truths of the word of God.

While God's son Israel is dead and buried our God will take from his body a woman who will become his wife and will occupy the paradise of God with him when it is complete. The work goes on whle we speak but is nearly done.

Written in 58 AD
Rom 11:
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Life from the dead is a resurrection.

 

EXACTLY!!! Quit being decietful

peace to you

 

Every post proves your ignorance of biblical Greek.

peace to you

 

Here is an effort to provide a word or phrase meaning for the words or phrases being presented in this thread..

YET—-I—don’t ——like——passage—-saying—-so—-rewrite—-the passage ——I—-will—-until—-satisfies—-me—-it—does—-and disagrees—-any—-will—be—-called—-false—-teachers.

peace to you

 

Not being able to understand scripture or the context in which it was written does not make it “to no effect”.

Altering scripture does not make it better or more accurate.

Humbly accepting the inability to understand and devoting oneself to diligent study, is a much better approach than altering scripture to fit your bias, which is deceitful.

peace to you

 

Do you ever read my posts?
One last try. Ei me means literally 'if not.' "I was not sent if not to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." And some translations change 'if not' into 'except' which makes better English. Ei me NEVER means 'only.' What many translations do is to remove the first negative ('ou'), making 'I was not sent' into 'I was sent.' If you leave it there, you have made the verse say the exact opposite of what it does say, so they change 'except' into 'only.' They have now got rid of two negatives, so the text, though not a literal translation, carries the meaning of the original Greek. "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." But if you change one negative and not the other one, you make the text say exactly the opposite to what it actually says.
Now your problem is that you desperately want the text to say the opposite of what it actually says so that it will support your faulty theology. As gently as I can, I have to tell you that it is your theology that heeds to change, not the text of God's word. You need to reconsider who the "Lost tribe of the house of Israel" actually are. I gave a whole pile of texts explaining it to you.

 

Read my last post again. I admit it is a little complicated. I would reckon that you would need the understanding of an eight year-old to comprehend it fully, but please make the effort.

 

This is not a good place for you Van. Most of the people here know one important fact that you don't seem to know. The sheep in the contexts of scripture are those of Israel. You are not a sheep and you will never be a sheep. God is not seeking sheep now. The woman in Matt 15 was not a sheep and the Lord was not seeking her. Both she and Jesus agreed that she was a dog. As a dog she was willing to lick up the crumbs that fell from the master's table. She had more understanding than the sheep, even those who were with the Lord that day. Therefore, it was said that she had great faith.

Paul the apostle was the man God chose to reveal the church with gentile members and to write it's doctrines, none of which were in the OT. Not one single time did Paul ever refer to the church, a New Testament entity, as sheep. Not once. How do you deal with this fact? It is a house, a family, a body, a bride, a temple but never a sheep or a flock of sheep as it relates to the 13 letters of the great apostle Paul. He writes the word sheep one time in Romans 11 in the context of Israel.

Ezekiel 34:12
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Zechariah 13:7
Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

Jeremiah 50:17
Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones.

It is dangerous to write your own Bible.

 

Scripture is not a wax nose to be punched into whatever shape you want. Whether Greek or Hebrew, there are grammatical rules that have to be followed

Leaving aside the mangling of the text in the O.P., I think it may be helpful to ask ourselves, who comprise the 'lost house of Israel.'?
John 1:47. "Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit."

John 10:26. "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you."

Romans 2:28-29. 'For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.'

Romans 9:6-8. 'For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but "In Isaac shall your seed be called." That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.'

Galatians 3:7. 'Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.'

Galatians 3:28-29. 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.'

Philippians 3:3. 'For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus and have no confidence in the flesh.'

The Canaanite woman believed - she was 'of faith.' Therefore she was a true Israelite and one to who our Lord was sent. Indeed, He went out of Israel into Phoenicia to find her. There does not appear to be any other reason for His trip to 'the region of Tyre and Sidon' than to meet the woman (Matthew 15:21-26).

 

Read post #52 again. It is all explained to you. You do not know what you are talking about.