Featured Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David in Zion Per Ps 132:11-18

Absolutely.

 

When somebody asks, "Do Baptists believe/do so-and-so?" we need to remember that one of the Baptist distinctives is the autonomy, under Christ, of the local church. So, except in a few cases such as believers' baptism, it isn't right to say that Baptists believe or do certain things. In this case, I am sure some Baptists believe that Christ will sit on the literal throne of David in earthly Zion, but by no means all do.

I am a Baptist, and I believe what John Gill wrote in his commentary on Psalm 132:

"So he was set upon the throne of David, as it was foretold both by the prophet Isaiah, and by the angel to the virgin, he should, Isa 9:6,7 Lu 1:32,33; not in a literal sense; for though he was no doubt right heir to the throne of David so understood, yet his kingdom was not of this world; but he was set as King over God’s holy hill of Zion, the church; and reigned over the house of Jacob, the whole Israel of God; the mystical and spiritual Israel, consisting of Jews and Gentiles: his throne, or the seat of his kingdom, is the church; his sceptre the Gospel; his crown the glory true believers in him give him; his laws, by which he rules, are its his word, and written in the hearts of his subjects; and his kingdom shall continue for ever."

 

I've asked myself that very question many times over the years...
In fact, It seems to me that there are so few professing Christians ( "Baptist" or otherwise ) that actually believe the Scriptures on all subjects ( not just this one ).

Sadly,
It shouldn't surprise me all that much, given the times that we are in;
For that's where we seem to be in these last days...the "falling away" spoken of by Paul to the Thessalonians.

 

Sorry, you seem to have misunderstood what I was saying. My point was that it is wrong to ask, "Do Baptists believe/do such-and-such?" because Baptists hold to the autonomy of the local church under Christ. I gave the example of John Gill (and myself) as Baptists who don't believe that Jesus will sit on the literal throne of David in the earthly Zion. I am sure there are other Baptists who do believe that.

 

Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David?

Isn't Jesus already seated on the throne?

Promise:
Psalm 89:26–29 (NASB 2020)
He will call to Me, ‘You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.’
I will also make him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth.
I will maintain My favor for him forever, And My covenant shall be confirmed to him.
So I will establish his descendants forever, And his throne as the days of heaven.

Psalm 110:1 The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

Fulfillment:
Acts 2:33–35 Therefore, since He has been exalted at the right hand of God, and has received the promise of the Holy Spirit from the Father, He has poured out this which you both see and hear. For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says:
‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” ’

Ephesians 1:20–22 which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and made Him head over all things to the church,Acts 5:31 He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 3:1 Therefore, if you have been raised with Christ, keep seeking the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.​

Colossians 1:13 For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,

Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Christ now sits upon the throne of David at God's right hand.

Rob

 

I would think that was self-evident given my post, but to answer the question with a "yes" or a "no"...
By and large, no they do not;
On many subjects.

From my perspective, they'd rather believe what their local church or even the radio teaches, and not God's very words.

 

Rob, David's throne was at Jerusalem.
Right now, and according to God's word, He currently sits on the right hand of His Father God, making intercession for the saints.

If He were sitting on David's throne, He would be in Jerusalem, would He not?

 

So you are differentiating David's throne and the Throne of God.

QUESTION: Are you speaking of a physical throne of David (hidden somewhere in Israel)

...or a symbolic throne (one holding the position and full authority of David)?​

The authors of the NT were quoting passages from the OT to support the full authority and kingship of Jesus.
They quoted these OT passages to indicate where Christ was sitting, at "God's right hand."

Peter was convinced that Jesus received the promises and he preached that message to the Jews of every nation at Pentecost (Acts 2:29–33).
Peter's message to the Jews was that Jesus fulfilled these promises.

“Brothers, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
So because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne,
he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that He was neither abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh suffer decay.
It is this Jesus whom God raised up, a fact to which we are all witnesses.
Therefore, since He has been exalted at the right hand of God, and has received the promise of the Holy Spirit from the Father, He has poured out this which you both see and hear. (NASB 2020)​

Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you of these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

Rob

 

Yes.
One is of David ( a man ) and is an earthly throne, and one is of God ( a Spirit ) and is a heavenly throne.

Both, but it's not hidden...the throne of David resides in the lineage.
Wherever an earthly king sits and rules from, that is where the seat of his power is and that is where the throne is.

Scripture tells us that the physical throne of David was at Jerusalem, and has not existed since the time of the Babylonian captivity...
The last of David's line to actually rule and reign from there was the king of Judah at the time of the carrying away...Zedekiah.


Since then, no one who was of David's physical lineage has sat in Jerusalem as king over Israel.

 

But another King will come who is of that line ( Matthew 1:1-17, Luke 3:23-38 ), and we know who He is.
His reign will be the fulfillment of this passage, among many others:

" Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this [is] his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.
7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that they shall no more say, The Lord liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 but, The Lord liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land." ( Jeremiah 23:5-8 ).

God's word very specifically tells us that the King who is to come, will rule from Jerusalem...not heaven ( Zechariah 14, among many others. ):

" 7 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain."

Jesus will be at Jerusalem someday, sitting on the throne of David ( not the throne of God )...and I look forward to it.

 

I like and I will add.

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Joel 2:32

Also compare that verse with Acts 15:16,17 YLT

After these things I will turn back, and I will build again the tabernacle of David, that is fallen down, and its ruins I will build again, and will set it upright -- that the residue of men may seek after the Lord, and all the nations, upon whom My name hath been called, saith the Lord, who is doing all these things.

Notice the residue of men call upon the Lord and those God took out of the nations for his name.

 

Zechariah 14:7 says:

“It shall be one day Which is known to the LORD — Neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen [That] it will be light.” (Zec 14:7 NKJV)

I think you may mean Zechariah 14:17:

“And it shall be [that] whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.” (Zec 14:17 NKJV)

If that means the literal Jerusalem, that would make nonsense of what Jesus said to the woman at the well:

“Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.” (Joh 4:21 NKJV)

 

No.

From a Baptist that has 'fallen' far away from the sensationalism of Dispensationalism.