Featured OSAS Trap

Your "Franciscan" Pope loves Islam.

 

Islam has no religious history extending back to Babylon, like the RCC does. I could see an Islamic figure being the anti-Christ, a political figure, but not the False Prophet, a religious figure.

You did not answer my question about how you understand the Mystery Babylon passages.

 

I liked your analogy.

As a profession of faith, water baptism saved (delivered, rescued) many Jews from the wrath (great tribulation, time of Jacob's trouble) that fell upon that generation that murdered Christ, and culminated with the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Sinai Covenant.

 

As a profession of faith, water baptism saved (delivered, rescued) many Jews from the wrath (great tribulation, time of Jacob's trouble) that fell upon that generation that murdered Christ, and culminated with the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Sinai Covenant.

 

Jews were baptized for the remission of sin after they turned back to God. The fact they were baptized was a proof that they had turned back to God, it was their faith in Him the saved them.

 

K, but the saving, the deliverance, the rescue, was from the wrath that was to come upon THAT GENERATION.

38 And Peter [said] unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 For to you is the promise, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call unto him.
40 And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Save yourselves from this crooked generation. Acts 2

 

Something to consider: Acts 2 was a Jewish preacher speaking to Jewish people about a Jewish Messiah whom they had rejected. I never saw it repeated.

 

KY as it says "repent" have a change of mind as to who this Jesus is. In other words trust in Him as Lord and savior and being Jews they would understand baptism for remission of sins as God forgiving them their sin which in this context was that they had crucified their long awaited Messiah.

They were saved not from the wrath but for eternity. The Holy Spirit would indwell those that trusted in Christ just as we are.

 

SILV, I'm trying to get you to focus on the word 'save'.

"Save yourselves from this crooked generation."

Original Word: σώζω
Transliteration: sṓzō
Phonetic Spelling: sode'-zo
[σώζω] from a primary σῶς (contraction for obsolete σάος, "safe"); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively)

It's intent is not always in the eternal sense.

 

I agree that it does not always mean in the eternal sense. It could be understood in the temporal or the eternal sense.

But the question is how are they to be saved from that crooked generation? They could try through self effort or they could trust in Christ Jesus. Peters' sermon was about trusting in Christ Jesus for their salvation.

They had heard the gospel message now they had to choose to either remain in that perverse generation or to come out of that perverse generation by trusting in Christ Jesus. The choice was theirs'.

 

Is this man-made quote equal to God's Word?

 

No.

Now will you answer my question, asking now for the third time, if you don’t believe Mystery Babylon is the RCC and the end times False Prophet is the pope, how do you understand the meaning of those passages?

Or will you just pretend I didn’t ask? It’s ok if you don’t have an answer, no problem, but please don’t complain if someone says it’s the RCC and the pope, when you have no idea what it refers to. Maybe the fact you have nothing to equate it to is an indication it’s already been correctly stated. You have to admit the pope is coming up with stuff that no longer aligns with the catechism.

 

I think your little rant was meant for someone else. I think you missed something along the thread here.

 

Got it. So it is NOT the Word of God. Just men following other men that were NOT chosen by Christ Himself. Thanks.

 

LOL. Thanks for your rc member opinion. I expect nothing less from a person who serves the pope.
But, thanks for reaffirming what I wrote.
So it is NOT the Word of God. Just men following other men that were NOT chosen by Christ Himself. Thanks.

 

“Only fools and madmen are positive in their interpretations of the apocalypse.” C.H. Spurgeon

You're waaay off, W. Babylon is apostate Judaism, the unfaithful, adulterous, murderous, wife of Jehovah who is now a widow because she killed her Husband.

 

You absolutely follow your own interpretations of Scripture. You came to the conclusion that the rc denomination is correct on their interpretation of God's Word.