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How Holy Laughter Have Some Things in Common with Hinduism

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  1. ChristB4Us

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    Since there is a report that holy laughter movement does happen in the Baptist churches, the late Dr. Roger Barrier did not discern it as apostasy, even though he did say not to pursue it, and yet this came about seeking a filling of the Spirit which I believe is the cause and effect for that phenomenon to occur.

    What Is 'Holy Laughter' and Is it Biblical?

    Although the Southern Baptist convention condemned it, it seems they are not discerning why God is allowing that strong delusion to occur in the Baptist churches in the first place.

    Taking your eyes off of Christ in worship is why this is considered suffering a thief to break through.



    Wake up.
     
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    FYI Those Baptists that misapply Ephesians 5:18 as if that is not just a call to stay sober but to seek a continual filling of the Spirit are opening themselves up to be suffering that phenomenon to occur.

    The Grove City Alliance Church in Grove City PA teaches that notion about seeking a continual filling of the Spirit but when somebody began speaking in tongues as a result, they put an end to that tongue speaker right there by excommunicating him for not ceasing from it, and yet that is one of the phenomenon that can occur for taking your eyes off of Jesus Christ to practice the rudiment in the world for how they seek to receive other spirits by seeing it happen, but not so when born again of the Spirit.

    Matthew 12:38-40 has Jesus condemning any believer for looking for a sign or proof so they can believe.

    John 14:16-17 testifies that we will know the Holy Spirit by Him dwelling within us and not how the world receives spirits.

    2 Corinthians 11:2-4 warns believers about those that preach another Jesus or another spirit which they have not received and thus preaching another gospel that are departing from the faith in Jesus Christ per 2 Corinthians 13:5.

    There is only one hope of our calling for why there is no more baptism of the Holy Spirit to be had, let alone another filling of the Holy Spirit per Ephesians 4:4-6

    Jesus testified that born again believers will be the same as new wineskins able to hold the new wine and thus not a leaky vessel per Matthew 9:17

    That is why after coming to & believing in Jesus Christ, no saved believer will be seeking again to be filled per John 6:35.

    After having received Christ Jesus, we are to walk in Him rooted in His words since we are complete in Christ to not be led away by the rudiments in the world, religious or supernatural or otherwise.

    Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

    This is what happens when saved believers take their eyes off of Christ in coming to God the Father by in worship John 14:6 by offering another way to come to the Father like by way of the Holy Spirit or the broad way by the Trinity which John 10:1 reproves as the emphasis is still on Jesus per John 10:7. This is why that "practice" fulfills the definition in principle of what an antichrist does as "instead of Christ".

    When Jesus said how every believer will be judged by His Son per John 5:22 and that is that judgment is when they stop honoring the Son, they are no longer honoring the Father John 5:23

    This is why I believe God is allowing these strong delusion to occur because they climbed up another way and so when by principle they are worshiping the Father instead of Christ, they suffer the spirits of the antichrist to break through, even when seeking a continual filling of the Holy Spirit, instead of Christ, is why He will say " I never knew ye, depart from me ye that work iniquity in Matthew 7:21-27 for not heeding His words in Matthew 7:13-14 as they took a different route Luke 13:24-30 for why they wind up being left behind, but still saved as Jesus Christ will continue His work in them in removing all that offends off of that foundation 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 for them to be resurrected after the great tribulation.

    So may every believer that hears as the Lord enables, let us keep our eyes on the Son, since the Bridegroom will be coming soon for the abiding bride of Christ.
     
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    When people are healed they will many times laugh or at least giggle, and also when they hear the Gospel for the very first time.
    This can not be helped, and can not be suppressed because it comes from deep within the heart.
    Just as the heart is open to receive The Holy Spirit, the heart is open to express itself outwardly.
    It’s a flame that can not be hid.
     
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    This link to that article supports the apostasy that you & others are in, brother Cathode.

    Giggling For God: A New Spirit Of Hysteria Is Spreading In Church | EWTN

    @Dr. Bob @KenH @Logos1560 @David Lamb

    That, Brother Cathode, is not serving the Lord Jesus Christ nor testifying of Him in seeking His glory but of something else in His name in seeking the glory of that movement of the "spirit" which happens to be the spirits of the antichrist.

    The term antichrist as it is applied in scripture means "instead of Christ" and so that movement is an example of an antichrist.

    You are seeking that phenomenon instead of Christ for supposed healings and even the appearance of casting out if devils, but Jesus addressed that as workers of iniquity for coming to God by the broad way, the Trinity or another way, the Holy Spirit as the method for such a phenomenon is occurring as seeking that spirit "instead of Christ".

    1 Corinthians 14: 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. < ----- no exceptions... not even for a moment

    1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 25 Brethren, pray for us. < ---- God would never mimic anything that was already in the world before Pentecost had come.

    Below is Jesus rebuking all believers for engaging in that work of iniquity that you are claiming to be of God in regards to seeking that "holy laughter" movement instead of Christ.

    Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? < --- ecumenical in gathering

    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. < ---- tongue for private users are sometimes known for condemning holy laughter as not of God but that emphasis on the baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues as that apostate calling started in Azusa Street Revival in 1906-1909 also had a variation of holy laughter, and so tongue users may be against holy laughter as confusion which God is not the author of 1 Corinthians 14:32-33, but so is tongues without interpretation as that is the epitome of confusion for believing it is for private use because it comes without interpretation. That is why they have to judge tongues for private use is not of God as the holy laughter movement is not of God.

    21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. < ------ See? Regardless of the supposed "miracles", it is not of Him at all.

    24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

    26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. < --- for not coming to God the Father by the only way provided, His Son, they lose self control & fall. The indwelling holy Spirit will always point to the Bridegroom for believers to go to in worship. prayer, & fellowship whereas the spirits of the "antichrist" will not but take their focus away from the Son to their visitations.

    1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

    Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

    1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

    2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

    1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
     
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    @percho

    You posted "Weather singular or plural, to date, how many men born of women, have been resurrected, made alive, out of the death brought forth by man? Made alive to die no more, no more to return to corruption, incorruptible in body.

    Methinks that is the beginning of the order of being made alive out of the dead, therefore, is that number one or more? If one, when will that number be increased to more than one?" ~~~ end of quote

    @MrW

    You posted "I have followed the Scriptures, and the people in Matthew 7:21-23 are lost.

    The 1000 year Reign of Christ, and the church ruling with Him, is as clear in Scripture as the resurrection of Christ.

    There were Saints that were resurrected when Christ was resurrected. The first resurrection started then, and it will go all the way through into the Millennial Reign." ~~ end f quote

    Read post #5 as that "holy laughter" movement occurs in the same way as those who seek that baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues as they are committing spiritual fornication / adultery for seeking a sign.

    Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    Everyone that is involved in that holy laughter movement or gained tongues by seeking that baptism with the Holy Ghost or any other phenomenon as gained by "instead of Christ" are committing adultery and at risk of being left behind as cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.

    Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

    20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

    21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

    22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

    23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works
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    24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

    25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

    Make no mistake,

    The rapture is before the great tribulation because that is when God will judge His House first. That is why Jesus is warning the churches and believers to be ready or else risk being disqualified to attend the marriage Supper in Heaven

    1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

    2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

    3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

    4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:

    5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

    6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

    7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer............

    12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

    13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

    14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

    15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

    16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

    17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

    19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
     
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    I’m not talking about the organised cultist clown shows. I’m talking about genuine healings. Evil tries to parody and mock the good so as to smear the good and quench the Spirit.
    You are ignorant and can not discern the difference, therefore reject everything.

    Our street ministry is very peaceful and prayerful, not the wild hysteria you are describing.
    People are being genuinely healed and are coming to God.

    1 Peter 1:8-9: "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls."

    You would not recognise the difference. How do you think “an inexpressible and glorious joy “ express itself in a new believer.

    “Restore to me the joy of your salvation” Psalm 51

    "But I trust in your unfailing love; my heart rejoices in your salvation." Psalm 13

    There is a genuine joy that expresses at a powerful saving experience with God.

    You are just the kind to reject the genuinely good, in your feverish haste to denounce the bad.
    Your reaction is precisely why evil parodies the good, so that you will reject the good as well, lumping it altogether.

    In your case, mission accomplished.
     
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    @Roy Kling

    The Grove City Alliance Church in Grove City PA also had a guest speaker that promoted experiencing the phenomenon as the "tenderness of Jesus" for members of the congregation to lay hands on those that seek a healing and that sinners do not have to go to Jesus but Jesus will come to them, and then the pastor of the church added " Be filled with the Holy Ghost" for that to happen. Same thing. Instead of preaching Jesus Christ & Him crucified; they promoted looking for that phenomenon to be healed.




    The late Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade would touch believers and seekers forehead and announce the Holy Spirit is falling on them to bring about healing or a casting out of devils and they would fall back to have catchers catch them to lay them to the floor. He would even point out into the audience and make some prophesy about someone having an ailment but I can see in the direction he was pointing that several hands were being raised and not just one and supposedly that one person was getting that healing.

    My folks took my brother & i to the event on Saturday & Sunday but even though I felt a tickling sensation in my deaf ear due to nerve damage, that was it. The next day I came home from school, I was unusually tired and took a nap. I woke up with a strange electrical humming sound and I was unable to move. I started praying to the Lord for help and then I could flip my hand by my right wrist. Then the other hand. Then I lifted my right forearm off of the bed and then the other one. Then I lifted my right shoulder blade off of the bed, and then the left one as the weight rolled off. The Lord came to my rescue.

    In such movements of these phenomenon where it is "instead of Christ", believers and seekers do sometimes lose self control or be slain in the spirit or be stricken dumb as unable to speak or frozen, etc. and even though I did not think it at that time as I was puzzled for what that was, I can see the resemblance for why Jesus said not to go there when they say He is in the upper room Matthew 24:23-26 because according to our faith, He is in us 1 John 4:1-4 2 Corinthians 13:5 & 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

    If you cannot discern that line in regards to our faith in Jesus Christ, then how can you avoid the appearance of evil of opening yourselves up to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils per 1 Timothy 4:1 ?

    Like Grove City Alliance Church.... but they preached seeking a filling of the Spirit for healings to come and try to make it Biblical with the laying on of hands for that healing to come, but it is just a feel good phenomenon; hence a seducing spirit.

    It is not accomplished if you still believe it to be of God. Do not believe every spirit but test them. You are not preaching Jesus Christ & Him crucified for how those in the Book of Acts would receive the promise of the Spirit, but you are promoting the spirit or the phenomenon instead of Christ.
     
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