Confess to each other the wrongs that you may have done towards them, but confession for sins to be forgiven must go to God alone, as Only He can forgive and cleanse
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Confession for Baptist’s and Protestants in general
- Thread starter Cathode
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Yet Scripture says “confess your sins to one another “
Yes, but not in the way Rome views it to be done to the priest for absolution
That's not what it says, you are adding to the scripture.
It says “ confess your sins to one another “, the Early Church had public confession of sins.
No, the Apostles were given the power to forgive sins by Jesus Himself.
It's not in the nature of us protesters to agree with anything the RCC says.
Of course I can see the shoe on the other foot here also.
At least we don't fight over it to the death as they once did.
canadyjd
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Yes, to one another… not a priest… not to get forgiveness from God. That is the addition of the RCC
When Jesus told His disciples that “they forgive the sins of any, they will already be forgiven in heaven”, He speaking of when someone sins against you, you should forgive them so as to be reconciled.
God alone forgives sins so that we reconciled to Him. That doesn’t come from a priest. It cannot come from a priest.
Your continuous claims that when you speak to a priest you speak to Christ, is unbiblical at the very least and heretical as it makes the man equal to God.
I do understand your beliefs. I do understand your desire to express your beliefs on this forum.
At this point, this conversation isn’t edifying so I’m bowing out.
Peace to you
“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).
Public confession in the Church before the Elders was normal especially for serious things like apostasy.
“The Gnostic disciples of Marcus have deluded many women. . . . Their consciences have been branded as with a hot iron. Some of these women make a public confession, but others are ashamed to do this, and in silence, as if withdrawing from themselves the hope of the life of God, they either apostatize entirely or hesitate between the two courses” (Against Heresies 1:22 [A.D. 189]).
Jesus granted Authority to the Apostles to forgive or retain sin.
“ What you bind on earth, shall be/ will be bound in heaven “ KJV / NKJV.
Jesus gave this great gift to the Apostles breathing The Holy Spirit on them.
What they declare on earth, Heaven will equally hold to.
“Father who knowest the hearts of all grant upon this Thy servant whom Thou hast chosen for the episcopate to feed Thy holy flock and serve as Thine high priest, that he may minister blamelessly by night and day, that he may unceasingly behold and appropriate Thy countenance and offer to Thee the gifts of Thy holy Church. And that by the high priestly Spirit he may have authority to forgive sins…” Hippolytus, Apostolic Tradition, 3 (A.D. 215).
We see this power of Christ is given to mere men through The Holy Spirit.
“For if any one will consider how great a thing it is for one, being a man, and compassed with flesh and blood, to be enabled to draw nigh to that blessed and pure nature, he will then clearly see what great honor the grace of the Spirit has vouchsafed to priests; since by their agency these rites are celebrated, and others nowise inferior to these both in respect of our dignity and our salvation. For they who inhabit the earth and make their abode there are entrusted with the administration of things which are in Heaven, and have received an authority which God has not given to angels or archangels. For it has not been said to them, ‘Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.’ They who rule on earth have indeed authority to bind, but only the body: whereas this binding lays hold of the soul and penetrates the heavens; and what priests do here below God ratifies above, and the Master confirms the sentence of his servants. For indeed what is it but all manner of heavenly authority which He has given them when He says, ‘Whose sins ye remit they are remitted, and whose sins ye retain they are retained?’ What authority could be greater than this? ‘The Father hath committed all judgment to the Son?’ But I see it all put into the hands of these men by the Son.” John Chrysostom, The Priesthood, 3:5 (A.D. 387).
It truly is an awesome thing.
Yet God seemed to have thought it not necessary to include anything Clement wrote into His Holy Word (Bible).
One another, not a rcc denominational 'priest'.
Not in the sense of having God forgive those sins, as that must be done to God directly
There was in the bible nothing stated to have the saved do public confession as in before entire church though
The Apostles had unique God given signs and wonders giftings, inspired to speak and write by the Holy Spirit, when John died, that all ceased
There were no more Apostles living after John died, as Rome sees it same way Mormons, JW. Sda do, as that their leaders were modern day ones
The priest is part of the one another, the Early Church practiced public confession in the Church before the Elders who then absolved their sins.
I already quoted the Didache 70 Ad, public confession was practiced across the whole Church.
Many people did hold Clements writings as scripture, because he was a direct disciple of Peter and co-labourer of Paul.
However the Catholic Church Councils did not include Clements writings in the first Canon.
Wrong. You need to read the lives of the Saints, miracles and wonders never ceased.
There were no Revelatory Apostles after the Apostles died, but the Apostolic ministry continued in the successors, the Bishops of the Church.
The Bishops are Apostles in ministry, not new revelation.
After John there was no new revelation.
We need no “priest” per Hebrews, Christ is our High Priest and we are also told to approach the throne of God boldly that we might obtain mercy and find grace in a time of need
