Confession for Baptist’s and Protestants in general

[Cathode]

Not in the sense of having God forgive those sins, as that must be done to God directly

No, public confession cleared the conscience, which is the forgiveness of sin.

“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).

“You shall confess your sins. You shall not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of light” (Letter of Barnabas 19 [A.D. 74]).

Confession was public in Church before the assembly and Elders, and the Bishop, who gave absolution. This forgave sin and cleared the conscience.

 

[Cathode]

The sole Apostolic authority are the 27 books the New Testament in matters of the faith and practice.

Not Scriptural. This is a doctrine of men.

 

[Cathode]

We need no “priest” per Hebrews, Christ is our High Priest and we are also told to approach the throne of God boldly that we might obtain mercy and find grace in a time of need

“Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”

Catholics approach the Apostolic Thrones of Judgement Jesus established to judge all the faithful.
The Apostles judge in their Successors.

 

[37818]

Not Scriptural. This is a doctrine of men.

The 27.books of the New Testament are not only scripture, but Holy Scripture.

 

[Marooncat79]

“Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”

Catholics approach the Apostolic Thrones of Judgement Jesus established to judge all the faithful.
The Apostles judge in their Successors.

Not sure of your point

My 2 points come from the book of Hebrews

 

[Cathode]

Not sure of your point

My 2 points come from the book of Hebrews

My point is that Jesus established the Apostolic Thrones of Judgement, the Apostles judge in their episcopal successors.

Confession is where this is demonstrated.

 

[Cathode]

Basically, Jesus delegated His Judgement Authority to His Apostles, giving them the power to forgive or retain sin.

This is the gift He breathed on them with The Holy Spirit.

“ As The Father sent me, so I now send you “

Just as The Father sent Jesus with all Authority, Jesus sends the Apostles with all Authority.

The Apostles sent other approved men with Authority.

“ Teach and reprove with All Authority, let man despise you ”

 

[Ben1445]

Basically, Jesus delegated His Judgement Authority to His Apostles, giving them the power to forgive or retain sin.

This is the gift He breathed on them with The Holy Spirit.

“ As The Father sent me, so I now send you “

Just as The Father sent Jesus with all Authority, Jesus sends the Apostles with all Authority.

The Apostles sent other approved men with Authority.

“ Teach and reprove with All Authority, let man despise you ”

Since I am not from one of the twelve tribes, which one am I responsible to? Is cross accountability acceptable? Can I be accountable to Peter and Matthew? What if there is a break in the chain of succession in the sixth century that nobody knows about? Do I still get absolution? If the successor I confess to doesn’t exhibit the proper characteristics given in 2 Corinthians 12:12, should I find another successor?

In all seriousness, This kind of teaching is one that Paul taught is not worth the time and effort to investigate.
1 Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

 

[Cathode]

Since I am not from one of the twelve tribes, which one am I responsible to? Is cross accountability acceptable? Can I be accountable to Peter and Matthew? What if there is a break in the chain of succession in the sixth century that nobody knows about? Do I still get absolution? If the successor I confess to doesn’t exhibit the proper characteristics given in 2 Corinthians 12:12, should I find another successor?

In all seriousness, This kind of teaching is one that Paul taught is not worth the time and effort to investigate.
1 Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

The term twelve tribes of Israel, means all of the People of God.

There is no break in the chain of succession, unless you are referring to the Protestant rebellion, where they rejected the Apostolic succession and chose non Apostolically approved human founders.

Even a bad Apostolic Successor has Authority. That is why Paul warns Timothy not to lay hands on anyone hastily, because you share in the sins of the one you vouch for.
With the laying on of hands comes extreme power.

This is something very much needing investigation if people are ignorant, they need to inform themselves.

The Apostolic Thrones of Judgement are The Apostolic Gates of The Kingdom, all pass through these to enter The Kingdom.

 

[Charlie24]

The term twelve tribes of Israel, means all of the People of God.

There is no break in the chain of succession, unless you are referring to the Protestant rebellion, where they rejected the Apostolic succession and chose non Apostolically approved human founders.

Even a bad Apostolic Successor has Authority. That is why Paul warns Timothy not to lay hands on anyone hastily, because you share in the sins of the one you vouch for.
With the laying on of hands comes extreme power.

This is something very much needing investigation if people are ignorant, they need to inform themselves.

The Apostolic Thrones of Judgement are The Apostolic Gates of The Kingdom, all pass through these to enter The Kingdom.

When the apostle James was killed with the sword in Acts, why didn't the Scripture tell us of a successor to his apostleship?

Is it maybe because there wasn't one?

 

[Cathode]

When the apostle James was killed with the sword in Acts, why didn't the Scripture tell us of a successor to his apostleship?

Is it maybe because there wasn't one?

Every Bishop/ Overseer is an Apostolic Successor, they are ministerial Apostles, not the original Revelatory Apostles.
Once all the chosen 12 died, there was no new revelation, but the Apostolic ministry continued.

The Apostles invested their Authority to the Bishops.

This is the direct disciple of John the Apostle, made Bishop of Antioch.

“For what is the Bishop but one who beyond all others possesses all power and authority, so far as it is possible for a man to possess it, who according to his ability has been made an imitator of the Christ of God? And what is the presbytery but a sacred assembly, the counselors and assessors of the bishop? And what are the deacons but imitators of the angelic powers, fulfilling a pure and blameless ministry unto him, as…Anencletus and Clement to Peter?” Ignatius, To the Trallians, 7 (A.D. 110).

 

[Charlie24]

Every Bishop/ Overseer is an Apostolic Successor, they are ministerial Apostles, not the original Revelatory Apostles.
Once all the chosen 12 died, there was no new revelation, but the Apostolic ministry continued.

The Apostles invested their Authority to the Bishops.

This is the direct disciple of John the Apostle, made Bishop of Antioch.

“For what is the Bishop but one who beyond all others possesses all power and authority, so far as it is possible for a man to possess it, who according to his ability has been made an imitator of the Christ of God? And what is the presbytery but a sacred assembly, the counselors and assessors of the bishop? And what are the deacons but imitators of the angelic powers, fulfilling a pure and blameless ministry unto him, as…Anencletus and Clement to Peter?” Ignatius, To the Trallians, 7 (A.D. 110).

And exactly what part of anything you said comes from the Scripture?

Again, history can be whatever the RCC wants it to be!

 

[Cathode]

And exactly what part of anything you said comes from the Scripture?

Again, history can be whatever the RCC wants it to be!

The history is what it is.

“Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.” 2 Timothy 1:14

Timothy and Titus were Apostles by Succession, entrusted with the teaching and ministerial authority of the Apostles, they did not receive new revelation.

They were to guard the teaching given to them by the Apostles.

 

[Charlie24]

The history is what it is.

“Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.” 2 Timothy 1:14

Timothy and Titus were Apostles by Succession, entrusted with the teaching and ministerial authority of the Apostles, they did not receive new revelation.

They were to guard the teaching given to them by the Apostles.

No they weren't, they were appointed by the authority of the apostle Paul, not God.

The 13 apostles were appointed and called by God Himself.

 

[Charlie24]

No they weren't, they were appointed by the authority of the apostle Paul, not God.

The 13 apostles were appointed and called by God Himself.

Now I believe a pastor of the Church is called by God to be a pastor, if he's a true man of God.

But a pastor as was Timothy is a completely different office than that of an apostle.

Titus was not an apostle called by God, he was an assistant to the apostle Paul, a delegate on Paul's behalf.

 

[Cathode]

No they weren't, they were appointed by the authority of the apostle Paul, not God.

Where did Paul get his Authority? God. The Apostles proved them by The Spirit and laid hands on them remember.
The gift Paul gave through the laying of his hands to Timothy.

The 13 apostles were appointed and called by God Himself.

And Matthias through the agency of the Apostles casting lots.

 

[Charlie24]

Where did Paul get his Authority? God. The Apostles proved them by The Spirit and laid hands on them remember.
The gift Paul gave through the laying of his hands to Timothy.



And Matthias through the agency of the Apostles casting lots.

And Mattias replaced Judas, the only successor of the apostleship recorded in Scripture.

There were many others in Acts called apostles, but where do you see in Scripture there appointment was officially by God as was the 13?

The succession of apostleship by the laying on of hands is a RCC myth.

All the official apostles were called directly by Christ Himself, and the Scripture records it.

 

[Cathode]

Now I believe a pastor of the Church is called by God to be a pastor, if he's a true man of God.

But a pastor as was Timothy is a completely different office than that of an apostle.

Titus was not an apostle called by God, he was an assistant to the apostle Paul, a delegate on Paul's behalf.

Yes there is a calling but it is not approved unless by the Apostolic laying on of hands.
The gift was given “through the laying on of my hands “.

There is no independent appointment without the Apostolic laying on of hands in the succession from the Apostles.

 

[Charlie24]

Yes there is a calling but it is not approved unless by the Apostolic laying on of hands.
The gift was given “through the laying on of my hands “.

There is no independent appointment without the Apostolic laying on of hands in the succession from the Apostles.

I've already shown you the official appointment to apostleship by man laying his hands on another is an RCC myth!

The official office of apostleship is a direct calling by Christ and is recorded in Scripture for only 13 apostles.

Of course you will argue this, it completely destroys the RCC credibility.

 

[Cathode]

And Mattias replaced Judas, the only successor of the apostleship recorded in Scripture.

There were many others in Acts called apostles, but where do you see in Scripture there appointment was officially by God as was the 13?

The succession of apostleship by the laying on of hands is a RCC myth.

All the official apostles were called directly by Christ Himself, and the Scripture records it.

“Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, 22 beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.”

23 So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. 24 Then they prayed, “Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen 25 to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.” 26 Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.”

Matthias was one of the originals, by reason of him being with Jesus from the time of John’s baptism to being witness of the resurrection.

The Kingdom needed the 12 revelatory Apostles as fulfilment of Scripture.

The Apostolic ministry continued with those these men proved by The Spirit and the laying on of hands.

Timothy, Titus, Clement, Ignatius etc.

We see it in Scripture and the Apostolic Fathers.