He did not need a savior before that fact? This is quite amazing you would even think this. because it certainly did not come from the bible
He had never sinned. so would not suffer the consequences of that sin and again, You have not shown me what occurred between the first group and second group.
Its not hard. even if we disagree with what you think happened and what I think happened. at least answer
Again, if you read what I have been saying, you would see my defenition of spiritual death vs spiritual life. it appears you still are going off what you have been told. and not listening to me at all
This is offensive, and I take great offence. especially since I told you this is not what I am doing
again, this shows you are just trying to argue against ISMS, and not what the word says or what I am saying
This again just shows you have not listened to a word I have been saying.
and lets be clear. I could say the same thing to you.. about getting your view from listening to men. whoever those men may be
I never said he did not need a Savior before the fact. The fact he sinned proved otherwise.
I also never said that Adam would die before he disobeyed God.
Sin produces death (James 1).
BUT where does the Bible say sin comes from? It comes from when we are tempted by the desires of the flesh and lust conceived sin, which produces death (again, James 1).
Now, IF Adam was not created with the desires of the flesh and IF Adam had a nature that would not give in to temptation THEN you might have a point.
But here we need to go to the Bible, ignore the "what if's", theories and philosophical wondering and simply see what each of us reads in Scripture that brings us to our belief.
I am kinda stuck on God's definition of spiritual life (life in the Spirit). I have given you those passages already.
What verses are you using to define spiritual life?
