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Total depravity or total inability?

Silverhair

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Yes people from all nations are saved according to Jn 12:32. Like here Rev 5:9

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of
every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

The words out of means from!

Jn12:32 says "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.”

All are drawn but only those that freely trust in God will be saved. Which is just what we are told in Rev 5:9

It really is not that complicated BF once you get past the false narrative found in calvinism.
 

Brightfame52

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Jn12:32 says "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.”

All are drawn but only those that freely trust in God will be saved. Which is just what we are told in Rev 5:9

It really is not that complicated BF once you get past the false narrative found in calvinism.
Jn 12:32 is all groups of people from out of different nations, like this Rev 5:9

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain[Lifted up on the cross], and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every[ALL] kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
 

Silverhair

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Jn 12:32 is all groups of people from out of different nations, like this Rev 5:9

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain[Lifted up on the cross], and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every[ALL] kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;


ALL people BF. You can disagree with scripture but that does not change what Christ said.

Why do you have such a hard time just believing what Christ said?
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
All nationalities

You are going in the right direction but still have a way to go to clear up the false theory you follow.

ALL would logically include all nationalities. Which is just what Christ said. He would draw all to Himself.

It seems you just cannot bring yourself to admit that Christ draws ALL.
 
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