Faith # 4

[Charlie24]

Faith cometh by hearing of the Word of God ! 5

Rom 10:17

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Faith cometh by hearing of the Word of God or the voice of God, or the voice of Christ, who is God. Now who is it specifically that hears the word or voice of God/ Christ ? The word for word Rhema means:

that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
speech, discourse what one has said

a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words) an utterance
a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c

concerning some occurrence

subject matter of speech, thing spoken of so far forth as it is a matter of narration
so far as it is a matter of command
a matter of dispute, case at law

In the original is reads:

ἄρα ἡ πίστις ἐξ ἀκοῆς ἡ δὲ ἀκοὴ διὰ ῥήματος Χριστοῦ or Faith cometh by hearing the word or voice of the Christ, the living voice of Christ !

The ASV:

So belief [cometh] of hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

Now Jesus tells us Himself this mighty truth as to who specifically it is who is hearing His Voice Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Jesus states that the ones of the Truth heareth His Voice, So exactly what does the Truth mean ? 6

Hello BF, haven't seen you around lately.

The Scripture says the truth will set you free, and I say, only those who desire the truth will be able to hear His voice and be set free.

 

[kyredneck]

......and I say, only those who desire the truth will be able to hear His voice and be set free.

....and your religion is just as man-centric as ever. The scripture in no way implies that 'the dead' are capable of desiring the truth. Dead people can do nothing. They must FIRST be made alive, i.e., born from above.


John Chapter 10

3​	To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

John Chapter 11

43​	And when he had thus spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

Ephesians Chapter 2

5​	even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace have ye been saved)