New Book on the Doctrine of Scripture

[Martin Marprelate]

It is Written. John Hooper (ed.). Bible League Trust, 2025, 655 pages.

It Is Written by Bible League Trust - Text and Translation

A book from Bible League Trust that treats the subjects of inspiration, authority, infallibility, preservation, translation, and interpretation of scripture.

www.textandtranslation.org

One for all you KJV fans out there; this time, from Britain. No, I haven't read it and no, I shall not be buying it. But if someone wants to buy me one for Christmas....... It's interesting to read the link.

 

[JesusFan]

It is Written. John Hooper (ed.). Bible League Trust, 2025, 655 pages.

It Is Written by Bible League Trust - Text and Translation

A book from Bible League Trust that treats the subjects of inspiration, authority, infallibility, preservation, translation, and interpretation of scripture.

www.textandtranslation.org

One for all you KJV fans out there; this time, from Britain. No, I haven't read it and no, I shall not be buying it. But if someone wants to buy me one for Christmas....... It's interesting to read the link.

Are they the main group behind the KJVO position then?

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Are they the main group behind the KJVO position then?

The two main groups in the UK that are KJV-only are the Bible Society and the Trinitarian Bible Society. I know some of the people involved in both orgnizations, and they don't seem to be quite as extreme as their American counterparts - more Joel Beeke than Gail Riplinger! In fact, some of them, like Beeke, are really fine preachers, writers and pastors. Their position is not so much that the KJV is uniquely inspired, as that it is simply the best translation out there and that the T.R. is the correct text.
KJV-only folk in the UK tend to be mostly Reformed, and there seems to be a view among some that if one is properly Reformed, one will be KJV. So T.R. can stand for Textus Receptus or Truly Reformed.
My main beef with them is that they mostly hate the NKJV.

I was surprised to see that Jeff Riddle is KJV. I have listened to a few podcasts by him and been blessed by them.

 

[JesusFan]

The two main groups in the UK that are KJV-only are the Bible Society and the Trinitarian Bible Society. I know some of the people involved in both orgnizations, and they don't seem to be quite as extreme as their American counterparts - more Joel Beeke than Gail Riplinger! In fact, some of them, like Beeke, are really fine preachers, writers and pastors. Their position is not so much that the KJV is uniquely inspired, as that it is simply the best translation out there and that the T.R. is the correct text.
KJV-only folk in the UK tend to be mostly Reformed, and there seems to be a view among some that if one is properly Reformed, one will be KJV. So T.R. can stand for Textus Receptus or Truly Reformed.
My main beef with them is that they mostly hate the NKJV.

I was surprised to see that Jeff Riddle is KJV. I have listened to a few podcasts by him and been blessed by them.

Think Dr beeke pastors a large Reformed church right here in Michigan, and he is indeed a good writer and scholar, disagree with him on Amil and Infant Baptism, but hey, none of us have perfect theology

 

[Reformed]

My main beef with them is that they mostly hate the NKJV.

I have to confess that I somewhat enjoy ticking off the TR (Truly Reformed) crowd. I really get them going when I insist Reformed Baptists are actually Reformed. They go nuts.

 

[Reformed]

The two main groups in the UK that are KJV-only are the Bible Society and the Trinitarian Bible Society. I know some of the people involved in both orgnizations, and they don't seem to be quite as extreme as their American counterparts - more Joel Beeke than Gail Riplinger! In fact, some of them, like Beeke, are really fine preachers, writers and pastors. Their position is not so much that the KJV is uniquely inspired, as that it is simply the best translation out there and that the T.R. is the correct text.
KJV-only folk in the UK tend to be mostly Reformed, and there seems to be a view among some that if one is properly Reformed, one will be KJV. So T.R. can stand for Textus Receptus or Truly Reformed.
My main beef with them is that they mostly hate the NKJV.

I was surprised to see that Jeff Riddle is KJV. I have listened to a few podcasts by him and been blessed by them.

I have no problem with a person who makes a case for the Bible version they prefer. Personally, I'm a Critical Text, New American Standard guy. However, I have a deep appreciation for TR versions. It's when some KJVO advocates try to tell me theirs is the only inspired translation and all other translations are works of the Devil. Those type of individuals are out there. I shut the conversation down fast and just move along.

 

[John of Japan]

It is Written. John Hooper (ed.). Bible League Trust, 2025, 655 pages.

It Is Written by Bible League Trust - Text and Translation

A book from Bible League Trust that treats the subjects of inspiration, authority, infallibility, preservation, translation, and interpretation of scripture.

www.textandtranslation.org

One for all you KJV fans out there; this time, from Britain. No, I haven't read it and no, I shall not be buying it. But if someone wants to buy me one for Christmas....... It's interesting to read the link.

Actually, this book advocates confessional bibliology, a somewhat different view from the typical KJVO advocate. Many are from non-Baptist traditions. It would be more accurate to consider them TR-Only IMO.

Note the "Bookshop" link. There are some important authors whose books are being sold who were definitely not KJVO: Turretin, Morris, Lloyd Jones, Burgon, Hills, etc.

 

[JesusFan]

I have to confess that I somewhat enjoy ticking off the TR (Truly Reformed) crowd. I really get them going when I insist Reformed Baptists are actually Reformed. They go nuts.

And when we point out to them many in our group actually do use esv and Nas

 

[JesusFan]

I have no problem with a person who makes a case for the Bible version they prefer. Personally, I'm a Critical Text, New American Standard guy. However, I have a deep appreciation for TR versions. It's when some KJVO advocates try to tell me theirs is the only inspired translation and all other translations are works of the Devil. Those type of individuals are out there. I shut the conversation down fast and just move along.

One can be a KJVP, but no way should be used based upon textual criticism and biblical references concerning what inspiration really means

 

[JesusFan]

Actually, this book advocates confessional bibliology, a somewhat different view from the typical KJVO advocate. Many are from non-Baptist traditions. It would be more accurate to consider them TR-Only IMO.

Note the "Bookshop" link. There are some important authors whose books are being sold who were definitely not KJVO: Turretin, Morris, Lloyd Jones, Burgon, Hills, etc.

Good point, but still odd that those holding to TR is only greek text would deny as being legit kjv Nkjv, Kjv 2021, MEV, as all of them used same textual sources as kjv team

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Actually, this book advocates confessional bibliology, a somewhat different view from the typical KJVO advocate. Many are from non-Baptist traditions. It would be more accurate to consider them TR-Only IMO.

Note the "Bookshop" link. There are some important authors whose books are being sold who were definitely not KJVO: Turretin, Morris, Lloyd Jones, Burgon, Hills, etc.

Yes, British KJV-only is a different creature from the American version. However, the fact is that both the Bible League and the T.B.S. denigrate the NKJV, despite it being Textus Receptus. This is what annoys me. I tend to be a Majority Text supporter rather than T.R., but the NKJV suits me fine. If these people don't like the NKJV, they should produce a new translation that is better, but they don't. And support for the KJV is steadily declining as its language becomes more and more strange to young people.