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Psalm 7:11

JD731

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Ps 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

I saw in one of the threads in the last few days where someone had made a misapplication of this verse. It was obvious to me that they quoted this psalm to prove that God is angry with sinners now and that he is always angry at sinners. Of course this is not true. God has been reconciled to sinners now at this time in history and he is a friend to sinners calling them to eternal life. This is a time of his grace.

The context of Psalm 7 is a prophecy, not a history. There is a prayer of this psalmist. He is asking the one who can deliver him from the Wicked to arise. He is concerned that he is asleep and unaware of his predicament, ready to perish.

Notice in these next verses that he is praying for God to arise and awake and return on high because this wicked man is about to destroy him.

For corresponding verses and context, consider this.

Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect s sake those days shall be shortened.

God has appointed a time for his anger but it is not yet.

At the end of this Psalm, the psalmist cannot be sure if he has been heard because the LORD has not said anything.
 

Reformed

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I saw in one of the threads in the last few days where someone had made a misapplication of this verse. It was obvious to me that they quoted this psalm to prove that God is angry with sinners now and that he is always angry at sinners. Of course this is not true. God has been reconciled to sinners now at this time in history and he is a friend to sinners calling them to eternal life. This is a time of his grace.
Grace is only found in those that repent of their sins and trust in Christ through faith. For those who do not the wrath of God already abides on them.

“He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

John 3:36

Some people possess an antinomian spirit by which they see no judgment for persisting in sin and rejecting Christ. However, God is not to be trifled with. While it is true that Jesus is a friend to sinners, His friendship is only offered to those who repent and believe. It is for that reason we are to warn sinners to flee from the wrath to come. It is only half a gospel to share the blessings that await us in glory if we do not warn sinners of the penalty for persisting in their unbelief. It is not by accident that our Lord Jesus Christ mentioned hell more than heaven in the Gospels.
At the end of this Psalm, the psalmist cannot be sure if he has been heard because the LORD has not said anything.
One well known preacher and commentator from history wrote about the conclusion of Psalm 7:

"We conclude with the joyful contrast. In this all these psalms are agreed: they exhibit the blessedness of the righteous, and make its colors the more glowing by contrast with the miseries of the wicked. Praise is the occupation of the godly, their eternal work, and their present pleasure. Singing is the fitting embodiment for praise, and therefore do the saints make melody before the Lord Most High. The slandered one is now a singer, an we leave him flying to the third heaven of adoring praise." ~ C.H. Spurgeon
 

JD731

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Grace is only found in those that repent of their sins and trust in Christ through faith. For those who do not the wrath of God already abides on them.

“He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

John 3:36

Some people possess an antinomian spirit by which they see no judgment for persisting in sin and rejecting Christ. However, God is not to be trifled with. While it is true that Jesus is a friend to sinners, His friendship is only offered to those who repent and believe. It is for that reason we are to warn sinners to flee from the wrath to come. It is only half a gospel to share the blessings that await us in glory if we do not warn sinners of the penalty for persisting in their unbelief. It is not by accident that our Lord Jesus Christ mentioned hell more than heaven in the Gospels.

One well known preacher and commentator from history wrote about the conclusion of Psalm 7:

"We conclude with the joyful contrast. In this all these psalms are agreed: they exhibit the blessedness of the righteous, and make its colors the more glowing by contrast with the miseries of the wicked. Praise is the occupation of the godly, their eternal work, and their present pleasure. Singing is the fitting embodiment for praise, and therefore do the saints make melody before the Lord Most High. The slandered one is now a singer, an we leave him flying to the third heaven of adoring praise." ~ C.H. Spurgeon
We are told in 1 Corinthians 1-4 that the mind of God must be revealed and men in their natural state do not have the ability to discern spiritual truths and follow the logic of a Divine mind. It is inaccessible through human intellect or wisdom. Many times, we are informed, that the ways of God are in direct contrast to those ways of men and appears foolish to wise men of the world. In Isaiah 55 for instance, God says his ways are above our ways and his thoughts above our thoughts.

That does not mean that God is looking for the dumbest man he can find or someone who has no wisdom at all, or someone who does not have a will to learn. He is looking for someone who will simply believe his words without ever seeing his person. This is obviously not C.H. Spurgeon in his comments on Psalm 7 above. His quotes addresses nothing the Psalmist said. One could have made these comments about any psalm or maybe even about the morning newspaper.

The Psalmist is in serious trouble here. He has a prayer. He is not hearing from God and the wicked man is about to overcome him and he is about to perish at his hand. He thinks God might be asleep The Psalmist cannot stand against this man on his own without Divine help.

Ps 7:1 O Lord my God, in thee do I put my trust: save me from all them that persecute me, and deliver me:
2 Lest he tear my soul like a lion, rending it in pieces, while there is none to deliver.

The Psalmist seems to be aware of a former promise when he would arise and deal with his enemies in righteous anger and he makes the appeal to him about it here. Look1

6 Arise, O Lord, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded.
Arise he prays. Lift up thyself he says. awake, he urges.

Following are the people of the Psalmist, his kinsmen. There is a purging taking place here among his people and the persecutor is the sword that God is using. Only the upright in heart will be saved. This is the purpose of the purge of the unrighteous. Check it out;

7 So shall the congregation of the people compass thee about: for their sakes therefore return thou on high.
8 The Lord shall judge the people: judge me, O Lord, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me.
9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins.
10 My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart.
11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready

Here is what he says about the persecutor who in reality is the "man of sin" who will come in the great tribulation and do the bidding of God in purifying his people by destroying the wicked from among them.

12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.
14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood.
15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.
16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.

There is reason for praise and because the Psalmist is engaged in it we may concluded that God carried out his threat against the Wicked and arose and delivered the Psalmist.

The Psalms are prophecies. They are prayers. They are promises for the people of God.
 

Ben1445

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At the end of this Psalm, the psalmist cannot be sure if he has been heard because the LORD has not said anything.
Psalms 34:15
The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous,
and his ears are open unto their cry.

1 Peter 3:12
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

I think the only way to be unsure is to be the wicked or the faithless.
 

JD731

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Psalms 34:15
The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous,
and his ears are open unto their cry.

1 Peter 3:12
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

I think the only way to be unsure is to be the wicked or the faithless.
Have you ever heard about "parallels"? Who was more righteous than Jesus Christ. Yet Jesus on the cross when the world turned dark called out to God, "my God, My God, why hath thou forsaken me" without an answer. Most prophecies have at least a 3-fold application. The manner in which God has advanced history has been the same events happening over and over again. In this manner God can have an application to events foreshadowing more than one thing, and he often does, especially in the Psalms. This allows God to use types and figures and teach us through the consistency of his terms what he wants us to understand. The same prophecy can be true of more than one event and one person. I could give you many examples but I have about five minutes now so I will do it later.

The day of the LORD is a day of darkness and not light and Israel in this day has a parallel in our Lord on the cross. The Psalms deals with different aspects of this judgement for both Israel and our Lord Jesus but God is not present when Israel goes through the refiners fire 7 times until she is pure and ready to be delivered. God was separated from Christ during that 3 hours of darkness and Jesus dies spiritually. This is the meaning of death. This is a fact of scripture. Psalm 7 is about this day.
 

Van

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Does God judge the righteous, or is God a righteous judge? KJV versus NKJV, and many others.

Is God angry every day or is God indignant every day?

Who is God displeased with, those made the righteousness of God or with the rest?

Just a few starting point markers before we engage in our study of scripture.

Once we have been reconciled, are we still sinners or are we holy and blameless before God?

Can God be displeased with sinners and still love them enough to give His uniquely divine Son so that everyone believing into Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life?
 

Van

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The 1611 translation note, "judgeth…: or, is a righteous judge"
Does not answer the question. Which translation is accurate? Anyone can say it may mean this or in may mean that.

Obviously the KJV got it wrong, but many will deny the obvious.
 

37818

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Does not answer the question. Which translation is accurate? Anyone can say it may mean this or in may mean that.

Obviously the KJV got it wrong, but many will deny the obvious.
But if either is true? Then why is the latter the better than the first choice really not really correct?
 

Ben1445

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Have you ever heard about "parallels"? Who was more righteous than Jesus Christ. Yet Jesus on the cross when the world turned dark called out to God, "my God, My God, why hath thou forsaken me" without an answer. Most prophecies have at least a 3-fold application. The manner in which God has advanced history has been the same events happening over and over again. In this manner God can have an application to events foreshadowing more than one thing, and he often does, especially in the Psalms. This allows God to use types and figures and teach us through the consistency of his terms what he wants us to understand. The same prophecy can be true of more than one event and one person. I could give you many examples but I have about five minutes now so I will do it later.

The day of the LORD is a day of darkness and not light and Israel in this day has a parallel in our Lord on the cross. The Psalms deals with different aspects of this judgement for both Israel and our Lord Jesus but God is not present when Israel goes through the refiners fire 7 times until she is pure and ready to be delivered. God was separated from Christ during that 3 hours of darkness and Jesus dies spiritually. This is the meaning of death. This is a fact of scripture. Psalm 7 is about this day.
So the Psalmists can’t have any idea if God hears him?
 

Ben1445

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Does not answer the question. Which translation is accurate? Anyone can say it may mean this or in may mean that.

Obviously the KJV got it wrong, but many will deny the obvious.
A judge (especially the Perfect Judge) will judge the righteous. Judge does not mean condemn. A judge will vindicate the righteous and condemn the guilty. Apparently the KJV translators didn’t have the means to acquire the dictionary you are using.
 

JonC

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Ps 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

I saw in one of the threads in the last few days where someone had made a misapplication of this verse. It was obvious to me that they quoted this psalm to prove that God is angry with sinners now and that he is always angry at sinners. Of course this is not true. God has been reconciled to sinners now at this time in history and he is a friend to sinners calling them to eternal life. This is a time of his grace.

The context of Psalm 7 is a prophecy, not a history. There is a prayer of this psalmist. He is asking the one who can deliver him from the Wicked to arise. He is concerned that he is asleep and unaware of his predicament, ready to perish.

Notice in these next verses that he is praying for God to arise and awake and return on high because this wicked man is about to destroy him.

For corresponding verses and context, consider this.

Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect s sake those days shall be shortened.

God has appointed a time for his anger but it is not yet.

At the end of this Psalm, the psalmist cannot be sure if he has been heard because the LORD has not said anything.
Yes.

The wicked store up wrath for themselves for the day of wrath.

And we (who are not yet perfected) are not under wrath because Christ is the Guarantor of a better covenant. God declares we are what He has predestined us to be when He judges the world.
 

JD731

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So the Psalmists can’t have any idea if God hears him?
We are coming to a place in our conversation where we can begin to understand why we must have a perfect testimony from God. It is because of the parallels that I mentioned. It is because of the circular (if I may say it that way) prophecy where the same things happen again and again and when the prophet picks up the pen he could be speaking of an event that is familiar to the reader in detail because it is either present or past tense but some of the particulars are yet future.

When Jesus Christ was in the boat on the sea of Galilee in the midst of the storm and it appeared to the disciples as if the ship would collapse from the beating of the wind and rain and hail and they would all perish they began to seek the Lord only to find him asleep. Here is the reaction.

Mk 4:35 And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.
36 And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.
37 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.
38 And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?
39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
41 And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?

This is the same kind of circumstance as Psa 7 and it was obviously set up by the Lord himself as his manner is to teach the same thing over and over again. God is not awake and he is not listening in Psa 7 until the ship is about to sink and they wake him up and he arises.

There are 12 of these psalms with this prayer in it with the same results and he answers the prayer in one of the Psalms. Take a look at this Psalm.

Ps 44:20 If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god;
21 Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.
22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.
23 Awake, why sleepest thou, O Lord? arise, cast us not off for ever.
24 Wherefore hidest thou thy face, and forgettest our affliction and our oppression?
25 For our soul is bowed down to the dust: our belly cleaveth unto the earth.
26 Arise for our help, and redeem us for thy mercies sake.

This is a recurring prayer to God who is in the same position of sleep and the prayer is the same. Why don't you care? Wake up, arise. Come to our rescue. I could go on with this for 12 Psalms before we get an answer, so I will give you the answer.

Psa 12:1 To the chief Musician upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David. Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.
2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
3 The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?
5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; (why LORD) I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

The timing of the LORD is in his hands.

Just as the presence of the Father and the Spirit was not present with Jesus as he suffered for sinners alone in the blackness on the cross and he was not heard so will his nation suffer under the hand of the man of sin for 3 years at the end of this age as it dawns toward the millennial day. The Lord will not be here during those three years. He is on the Father's throne in heaven and the Spirit is in the church, his bride, in heaven.

It was the disciples in the ship, not the church.

This book of God is far greater than we give it credit for. God will baptize his nation in a fire baptism and purify it and it will enter his kingdom redeemed just as he says it will no matter the naysayers who say it will not.
 
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Van

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But if either is true? Then why is the latter the better than the first choice really not really correct?
Here is the claim those translating ambiguous scripture cannot by study of the context arrive at the most likely choice. Or even address why the NKJV changed the verse. Nope, just conjecture to hide KJV error.
 

Alan Dale Gross

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warn sinners of the penalty for persisting in their unbelief
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!
Grace is only found in those that repent of their sins and trust in Christ through faith. For those who do not the wrath of God already abides on them.
Right.
11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

The 1611 translation note, "judgeth…: or, is a righteous judge"

A judge (especially the Perfect Judge) will judge the righteous. Judge does not mean condemn.

I hope things aren't getting lost in the translation.​

Psalm 7:11

  • "God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. (KJV)
  • "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. (NKJV)
"The NKJV changes the clear meaning of the KJV's “God judgeth the righteous”, which is faithful to the Hebrew, to follow the corrupted Septuagint with “God is a just judge”. The NKJV does not even acknowledge this change in a footnote. It follows most modern bibles, from the Revised Version. While it is true that God is a just judge, the character of God is not what this section of the Psalm is speaking of. It is speaking about how God judges righteous people."
 

Alan Dale Gross

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God is angry with sinners now and that he is always angry at sinners.
Chapter 17: Of the Anger of God
  • Of the Wrath of God
Chapter 18: Of the Hatred of God
Of course this is not true.
I hope you are not saying that what Jesus did on the Cross turned the World back into the Garden of Eden, and everyone is just an innocent little person that God wants to be smart enough to go to Heaven.
God has been reconciled to sinners now at this time in history
Saved sinners were Reconciled back to God, through Jesus Christ.

Please, don't say you think Jesus died for everyone and made it possible for them to be saved, if they decide they feel like it, or someone talks them into it.
he is a friend to sinners calling them to eternal life.
Where is God said to be a friend to lost sinners or that He is calling them to Eternal Life, as if they have the ability to respond? You're saying that their Adamic Nature has been paid for and done away, leaving them free to chose Heaven or Hell, or to tell God to move over.
Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect s sake those days shall be shortened.
I believe that each scripture in the Bible has ONE INTERPRETATION.

For this scripture Jesus is talking to His Disciples about the Judgment that is going to come upon the Jews in A.D.70, and that's it. There is no further 'application' and none needed.

He Comes in Judgment upon those who crucified Him in the same way you say here in Psalm 7 that God was using the persecutor:
We are told in 1 Corinthians 1-4 that the mind of God must be revealed and men in their natural state do not have the ability to discern spiritual truths and follow the logic of a Divine mind. It is inaccessible through human intellect or wisdom. Many times, we are informed, that the ways of God are in direct contrast to those ways of men and appears foolish to wise men of the world. In Isaiah 55 for instance, God says his ways are above our ways and his thoughts above our thoughts.
This does mean exactly what it says and nowhere is anything taught about something happening that undid what it says.
That does not mean that God is looking for the dumbest man he can find or someone who has no wisdom at all, or someone who does not have a will to learn.
Are you talking about lost people? Being dumb, wise, having logic, having a will to learn, or a human intellect has nothing to do with a lost sinner being Spiritually impotent and unable to discern Spiritual things.

God Commands all men to Repent, of what? their SINS.

God Hates sin. It was SIN that took the Life of His Son on the Cross.
He is looking for someone who will simply believe his words without ever seeing his person.
Where is this, "God is looking" thing taught?
Here is what he says about the persecutor who in reality is the "man of sin" who will come in the great tribulation and do the bidding of God in purifying his people by destroying the wicked from among them.
Unless, you have a Bible passage that connects the man of sin with Psalm 7, or that of "the great tribulation" that talks about "God purifying his people by destroying the wicked from among them" sometime, somewhere, you've got nothing.
Have you ever heard about "parallels"?
More than you know. That doesn't mean we should believe our own baloney every time we think we want to invent a 'parallel' that has absolutely nothing to do with any other Bible teaching.
Most prophecies have at least a 3-fold application.
How about ONE INTERPRETATION and then only applications that are clearly taught.
This allows God to use types and figures and teach us through the consistency of his terms what he wants us to understand.
If we can grasp the fact that that is what He does.
The same prophecy can be true of more than one event and one person.
Nope. Not in my book. No way. Having that discipline could save the day for you to actually see what God says and what He isn't saying in the least.
God was separated from Christ during that 3 hours of darkness and Jesus dies spiritually.
People say that and yet Jesus Spirit as God did not die. His Spirit went back to Heaven.
This is the meaning of death.
Then, that separation of the Spirit from the Body is what death is.
This is a fact of scripture. Psalm 7 is about this day.
If that is the ONE INTERPRETATION taught somewhere, where is that taught?
We are coming to a place in our conversation where we can begin to understand why we must have a perfect testimony from God.
Unless, we have a perfect teaching testimony from God, as to what He says a passage means and who it is talking about, we have nothing.

We can't assume a bunch of different 'applications', if they aren't clearly taught as 'parallels'.
God will baptize his nation in a fire baptism
Who is this 'nation'?

The only baptism with fire that I know of is the one John the Baptist said Jesus would be doing, to those in the crowd listening to Him, who would remain lost and inundated in The Lake of Fire.

John the Baptist talks tough to these who are obviously lost and could certainly remain so, warning them to flee the wrath of God and commanding them to repent:

7; "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to His baptism, He said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?


8; "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:


Then, the immediate context before verse 11 where it mentions the Baptism with fire is here talking about the fires of Hell, here:

10; "And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."

11; "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but He that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:


Then in the immediate context, in the verse afterward, it is also talking about the fires of Hell:

12; "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

So, since there is no teaching that the people who would be baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit would also be the ones baptized with fire, anywhere else in the Bible, we need to stick with what we do have in the Bible, 'fire' in Hell in each case, where they are warned to flee from God's Wrath there.
 

Martin Marprelate

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I hope things aren't getting lost in the translation.​

Psalm 7:11

  • "God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. (KJV)
  • "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. (NKJV)
"The NKJV changes the clear meaning of the KJV's “God judgeth the righteous”, which is faithful to the Hebrew, to follow the corrupted Septuagint with “God is a just judge”. The NKJV does not even acknowledge this change in a footnote. It follows most modern bibles, from the Revised Version. While it is true that God is a just judge, the character of God is not what this section of the Psalm is speaking of. It is speaking about how God judges righteous people."
I don't think it's a question of differing texts, but a genuine difference over the correct translation of the Hebrew. However, both are true. God does judge the righteous and He is just Judge. The important point is that He is angry with the wicked every day.
The 'simplicity' of God is an important doctrine. He is not made up of parts as we are. He does not wake up in the morning with a headache, or suffer with constipation which might put Him in a bad mood. No, His anger is righteous and judicial, and therefore it is constant (c.f. Rom. 1:18). He is not going to change His mind and say that sins don't really matter so long as people are 'nice.' What He has done, however, since before time began (Titus 1:2 etc.), is to make a way of salvation for sinful humans through the shed blood of the Saviour Jesus Christ. BUt there is no other way. 'There is no other name under heaven given amongst men by which we must be saved.'
 

JD731

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The Psalms have a spiritual application and ones can read them and be encouraged and find help in them in times of need because of the unchanging and eternal nature and attributes of our God. But these psalms have a practical and prophetic and future application as well These prophecies will come to pass as all prophecies do, exact and precise and complete. They are not about a babe in a manger but they they are about a suffering saviour and a conquering King who is dealing with sin in his people by dealing with the sinners among them, purging them out and purifying the nation.

The means of his purification of his people is the Wicked, who is both an individual and a collective because the line between good and evil will be absolute in the day when he judges the world in righteousness. It can be truly said in that day, "he that is not with me is against me and he that gathereth not with me sacttereth abroad."

There is nothing in the Psalms that is particularly about this present age we are living in now. When God is judging his people it is in the same way that precious metal is refined, it is with fire. The good is mixed with the bad but the refiners fire separates them and the hotter the fire the purer the metal. God's people are slated for a 7-fold purification like silver is refined. All corrupting agents are separated by the heat.

Ep 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

The events of this age required a special chosen revelator of it's purpose. Why? Because the purpose of God for this age was not revealed in former ages, he said. The Psalms were all written in a previous age than what God himself has named the dispensation of the grace of God. There has never been before this and there will never be after this. It has a beginning and an ending. Paul is that chosen vessel.

One verse in the scriptures expresses that purpose more clearly that can be debied; Here it is.

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

16 And that he might reconcile both (Jews & gentiles) unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

There is no body like this in the Psalms and there is no promise that there will be in any of the Psalms or in any OT scriptures, except in metaphors or types.

There is no excuse for denying the plain teaching of the scriptures and following the fanciful writings of men who have written their own opinions that deny the truth, thus deceiving many.

During this age of grace there has been no Israel with a national presence. They were dispersed into the gentile nations of the world and were saved, not nationally obviously, but as the gentiles, one at a time through the gospel of God. God says in this age to all in the world, "whosoever will let him come and take of the water of life freely. In this way the wisdom of God is on display and his people Israel, though under his judgement as a people can still be saved wherever they are in the world. God will save everybody and anybody so he can still save his people. This amazes me and I am thankful as a gentile to be included in Israel's blessings.


Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.

2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

2 Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them (National Israel) be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Life from the dead is a resurrection and resurrections are physical.

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

This is the end of the remnant of Israel doctrine because all those who would not be saved have been purged b y the heat of the fire and they are absolutely 7 fold pure.
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One must be careful what he teaches about God.
 

37818

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Here is the claim those translating ambiguous scripture cannot by study of the context arrive at the most likely choice. Or even address why the NKJV changed the verse. Nope, just conjecture to hide KJV error.
Which reading? In the body of verse 11 or note or both?
 

Van

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Which reading? In the body of verse 11 or note or both?
You are posting gibberish. I said the KJV is in error. God is a just judge. Psalm 7:11 does NOT, REPEAT NOT say God judges the righteous. That is not in the KJV footnote, that is in the body of the verse.

Obviously the KJV got it wrong, but many will deny the obvious.
 
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