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Angels?

th1bill

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Gen, 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

This is one great example of misusing Scripture. Search the Bible until your fingers fall off, and you will not find Yehovah God committing sin. Why in the world do I throw that in here?

God created Angels to be His servants, and Angles do not reproduce.

Matthew 22:30 ESV​

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
In Heaven, we will no longer reproduce, but will be like the Angels who do not reproduce. Let's look for a moment at possibilities.
Sons of God (Biblical Hebrew: בְנֵי־הָאֱלֹהִים, romanized: Bənē hāʾĔlōhīm, [1] literally: "the sons of Elohim " [2]) is a phrase used in the Tanakh or Old Testament and in Christian Apocrypha. The phrase is also used in Kabbalah where bene elohim are part of different Jewish angelic hierarchies.
Men are great at using themselves to relate to anything else, but Yehovah God had the Holy Scriptures recorded and they interpret themselves and that must be accomplished with the aid of Ruah ha'Mashiach, a.k.a. The Holy Spirit.

Mark 4:11​

English Standard Version​

11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables,​


It is not meant for the Lost Man to understand the parables of God, and they are revealed to the person who submits to the leadership of Yahweh, because those people are indwelt with the Ruah ha’Machiah and He interprets for them.

Colossians 1:26-29​

New American Standard Bible 1995​

26 that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His [a]saints, 27 to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28 We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man [b]with all wisdom, so that we may present every man [c]complete in Christ. 29 For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His [d]power, which [e]mightily works within me.​


The simple truth is revealed to those who are the Children of God because they are filled with the Spirit of His Presence. To this end, the Sons of God, spoken of in this passage are the God Fearing, God Worshipping Jews who married the daughters of the unchosen.
 

canadyjd

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Ok, so in context let’s remember Moses is writing Genesis. He is emphasizing to the Hebrew people they are not to marry any of the “Canaanites” in the promised land.

The “Sons of God” are the descendants of Seth. The “sons of men” are descendants of Cann.

They are not angels at all and as you pointed out, angels are spiritual beings unable to reproduce.

Peace to you
 

JD731

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Jews weren't until after Judah.

I agree the sons of God [Genesis 6:4] were to be Godly men.
Sons of God are, without exception, possessors of the Spirit of God, whether created with the Spirit as Adam and the angels that fell or those who were born of the Spirit, the church, in the NT times. Adam and the sons of God in Genesis 6 were tested and fell. Those sons of God in the body of Christ cannot fall because they are sealed unto the day of redemption of the body at the resurrection. The Spirit within them is also the seal. The church receives the Spirit of God , not through a creation, but through a new creation, a second birth,

Here is a passage that speaks of the fall in Ge 6 and one can note that it is in the context of sexual sins.

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; (read context)

These angel are still there since those days.

Obviously not all fallen angels participated in this conspiracy to corrupt the DNA of the humans thus making it impossible for God to bring in the promised seed of the woman and his ultimate victory over the spirit world.

Angels are always men and when appearing they appear as young men in the OT.
Holy angels have appeared in the apostolic age to humans unawares because of their appearance.
No unholy angel has appeared after the flood suggesting they no longer have the ability.

There is no scripture in the KJV that says these angels were unable to impregnate women. It says only they do not marry and are not given in marriage. A reason for that is they are all males. SONS of God is a real tip off. It means there is a fixed number of angels that did not change with the hybrids.

God said he is destroying the first order of earth because the whole earth was corrupt. He killed all but eight of them.

Ge 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

This following is alone what is said of Noah.

Ge 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Some have suggested that the disembodied spirits of the hybrids are the devils we read about in the NT that have such a desire to possess a body. That is not yet my position but I bring it up here because there is some sense to it.

Corrupted humanity could not be saved.

Some have suggested that the mark of the beast might in some way alter the DNA of those who receive it. I do know that no one who receives it can be saved but I have not reached the point that is my teaching on the subject. There is some sense to the idea.

There is much to know about the doctrine of angels and I am in the learning mode.
 
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