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Can Predestination and Free Will Coexist?

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Brightfame52

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Not so my friend. It was you who posted “Yes the Son does make us free when we have freely trusted in Him not before." If someone has freely trusted him, they had to have been set free to freely trust in Him.
Correct not only that, they had to have been made alive from the dead to hear and trust in Jesus Eph 1 13

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
 

Silverhair

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Not so my friend. It was you who posted “Yes the Son does make us free when we have freely trusted in Him not before." If someone has freely trusted him, they had to have been set free to freely trust in Him.

So what your saying is they were set free from their sin so they could be set free from their sin.

That is an odd bit of logic there SG.

Joh 8:31 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;
Joh 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

Joh 8:36 "So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

The Son makes us free when we have trusted in Him.
 

Silverhair

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But you havent trusted Jesus, you say He doesnt save anyone by His Blood and that he is a potential saviour. You mean you trust jesus the potential saviour

You really do need to learn how to read BF.

You continue to make false comments and think you will not be judged for them.

You have been shown the truth of God's word and you still follow man's word rather then God's.

1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
 

Silverhair

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Correct not only that, they had to have been made alive from the dead to hear and trust in Jesus Eph 1 13

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

We were warned that many false teachers would come and you keep proving that point with your posts.
 

Silverhair

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You have stated numerous times that the death of Christ saved no one. So thats your trust and confession

The bible says that BF. Why do you not believe the word of God

1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;
1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
 

Brightfame52

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The bible says that BF. Why do you not believe the word of God
No it doesnt, that comes from the dark resources of mans imagination. Christ death healed them He died for 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Healed means:

  1. to cure, heal
  2. to make whole
    1. to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation
 
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