Jumping the gun there aren't you, Cathode.
Are we yet made heirs?
Heb. 3:14
"For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;"
Have we held on to the faith to the end yet?
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Real Angels
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Jumping the gun there aren't you, Cathode.
Are we yet made heirs?
Heb. 3:14
"For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;"
Have we held on to the faith to the end yet?
Somethinig important you need to know!
We are not heirs until we are glorified, and that's if we hold the faith to the end.
Rom. 8:17
"And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
“Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?” Heb 1:14
Read the bold print mate.
The Angels serve us now, this side of final Salvation.
It’s a beautiful thing that God extends these Angels to us now to be our servants.
Now you're making some sense of it all!
You're admitting that the angels are sent, not called on by you.
We are as saved right now as we will ever be, but there's a checkup my friend.
And I've given it to you.
Ascetic X
Well-Known Member
If believers can use and command angels, you’d think in the book of Acts, the apostles and laity would be doing that a lot. While there is a rescue of Peter from jail by an angel, there is no mention of using and commanding angels. Apostle Paul does not mention it either.
Colossians 2:18
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
Colossians 2:18
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
“Sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.”
They are our servants, that’s why we can tell them to do things.
And they have done many things, I have told you some my experiences, but it’s not just me, countless others have used the Angels to amazing effect.
Ok, you call on the angels and I'll call on their Boss as I was instructed to do.
We aren’t worshipping angels, we use them as our servants, which is quite the opposite.
They serve those who will inherit salvation. It’s second nature now to tell them to guard people and property.
Things lost mysteriously found, amazing things they have done many times over.
The Heirs get these amazing Holy servants.
I get the part of the angels serving us, but the part of you calling on them, no sir, that a Catholic myth, unbiblical.
I thank His Majesty for sending these wonderful servants of His Kingdom to serve me.
I have been using them with great gratitude.
I thank God for them also!
I don't know when or how they've helped me but I'm sure they have in some way serving God's purpose.
No. You really don’t.
They truly serve us, use them.
I’ve sent my workers to friends places to do what they wanted done, to be their servants.
This is what God has done for us, sent us His workers to do what we want done.
My guys didn’t complain saying ‘ they are telling us what to do’ I sent them out there to be told what to do, and do it.
And so the Angels are sent out to us to be our servants.
Use them, they are yours to command.
Can you believe God could be so generous?
Or do you think this generosity is impossible for God?
Right, so you don’t believe it.
God sent the angels to be our servants.
Ministering spirits. They serve us.
To serve those who will inherit salvation.
LOL!
I've read and studied the Scripture all of my life and I've learned, if nothing else, to follow the instructions of the Lord.
That's what I'm doing, Cathode.
Ben1445
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Do you have them do your shopping?
What is it that they do for you?
Do they embody themselves?
Do they talk to you audibly?
Just curious.
Not everything is recorded in scripture, even scripture tells you that. Scripture tells you to follow both the oral and written traditions together which you don’t.
So you only get part of the Christian beliefs and practices as a penalty.
Mockers don’t deserve answers, but if you read the previous posts, I have told you what they have done.
Primarily they protect.
In street ministry after asking the angels for protection a guy tried to head butt me in the face a running or flying head butt. I didn’t feel a thing or move, he broke his skull and fell on the concrete unconscious.
Normally according to physics, my face should have been stoved in and I should have fallen 10 feet away with permanent brain damage.
I didn’t feel anything and didn’t move on impact. A sickening KONK and he was down on the pavement. People saw it and couldn’t believe it.
Also one time when my neck was out of joint, I had driven to the last chiropractor of last resort and he refused to even touch it.
I hadn’t gone far and had to park up to rest, in great pain.
Then I found I couldn’t start the car, the battery had dropped a cell.
I asked for angels help realising I couldn’t lift the hood or lift the battery out or walk to a shop carry one back. No mobile in those days.
I tried to start it again and nothing.
Then watched an old Ute/pickup drive past and pull in.
A young bloke got out and asked my if the battery flat, then told me to pop the hood spanner in hand and lifted battery out and put it in the tray of his Ute. He said he would drive me down to the auto shop to get a new one.
On the way I asked what he did, and he told me “ This and that “ some vaguery.
We came back and he put the new battery in for me closed the hood.
I started up and he looked at me saying something about my cranked neck ‘ We fix it this way ‘ or something and reached in cradled my head and cracked it back in place.
I told him thank God he came along and he smiled, I made sure to shake his hand.
I had suspected he was an angel all along. He drove directly away, not going in to do any business where he parked next to me.
He had no way of knowing my battery was shot, no hood up or popped, didn’t hear me trying crank the engine over.
And he was an expert chiropractor.
He came from out of nowhere, like he was only there to help me out and was gone.
Visible Angel, real help.
We have devotions to the Angels from a young age, we salute all the Holy Choirs from highest to lowest. We praise and thank God for them.
“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.”
Angels extreme positivness gives them away. That’s one thing that marks them out.
It’s a mix of strong positive confidence that’s not normal, that’s the only way I can describe it. Negative deflects off them like a granite wall.
They are Spirit, their presence is what they are, they radiate what they are, if that makes sense.
Most people will have sensed their Guardian Angels, but not recognised it as their Guardian Angels.
They help recollect you in true prayer, they bring peace in distress, they put you sleep and reflect God’s light on your soul as you sleep.
They guard you from temptations, they order your life and thinking toward the good.
They want you to look upon the Holy Face of God as they do in Adoration.
Angels are powered and animated by God’s Light, they reflect an attribute or aspect of Him.
Comforting angels reflect God’s comforting Light. They are not in competition with God.
Angels radiate the Light they receive. they have no other Light but Gods Light.
Devotion to the Angels does not detract from God. They are Holy friends and servants.
Comforting angels reflect God’s comforting Light. They are not in competition with God.
Angels radiate the Light they receive. they have no other Light but Gods Light.
Devotion to the Angels does not detract from God. They are Holy friends and servants.
Ben1445
Well-Known Member
I don’t deny that angels are still active in the world. But Jesus said to ask the Father and didn’t mention the angels when He said lead us not into temptation.
The angel is only the messenger. I’m happy for them but I don’t recognize what they do as their work. They are the messengers of God. So I give credit to God and not angels.
easternstar
Active Member
I suppose I take a mediating position on this, similar to what the Anglican Communion does. I believe in the Communion of Saints, and angels, and I don't see a problem asking them to intervene on our behalf. But I don't go so far as to veer off into superstition and or even paganism.
You have got to get out of this stunted zero sum mindset.
That friendship and use of the Angels somehow detracts from God, it doesn’t. That Angels win acknowledgement, God has to lose.
Does your love of wife, family or friends detract from God? No, that’s a dumb idea.
Zero sum pathology doesn’t fit or work in the spiritual ecosystem.
The Angels are sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.
In fact by not using them, you are demonstrating huge ingratitude to God. The Angels go back to God and say ‘ They refused your generous offer and they refused us as servants and did not even acknowledge us’.
I can tell you my response if my gardeners came back like that.
The Angels are ministering spirits, minister = to serve.
That’s what they do.
They are sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.
What are you demonstrating by refusing these Angels as your servants?