Real Angels

[Cathode]

Once again, no scripture saying we can use and command angels to do our bidding.

Why is it not sufficient to go directly to God the Father and let Him decide how to bless us?

The magnitude of our inheritance in Christ is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Once again you haven’t grasped the implications of what scripture is saying.

You are not fitting into your new role as heir. Not everyone is cut out for it.You want to fire all the staff as superfluous, not even acknowledge them let alone use them.

 

[Charlie24]

Yes but in the New Covenant Kingdom, we are made joint heirs with Christ.
We have run of the house, with and because of Christ.

The least in the Kingdom is greater than the greatest of the old covenant.

You are Heir, the staff are subordinate to you.
You don’t like something happening out on the estate, send the staff and the hounds out there to sort it out.

There's a chain of command with God just as the military.

When you break that chain of command you have disobeyed the foundation of command.

Calling on an angel to "sort things out" is breaking the chain!

Unlike the military, our orders are to take our requests to the Throne of God.

Heb. 4:16

"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

The angels don't have a throne of grace we can call on.

 

[Cathode]

“Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?” Heb 1:14

As born again inheriters, Heirs, we have been given the angels to serve us.

So use them, you are an Heir now, the angels are here to serve you.

 

[Charlie24]

“Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?” Heb 1:14

As born again inheriters, Heirs, we have been given the angels to serve us.

So use them, you are an Heir now, the angels are here to serve you.

You are granting power to yourself that you don't have.

The angels are like the Presidents cabinet, they work at his pleasure, not anyone else.

 

[Cathode]

You are granting power to yourself that you don't have.

The angels are like the Presidents cabinet, they work at his pleasure, not anyone else.

No, they have been sent to serve the Heirs of the Kingdom.

“Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?” Heb 1:14

As Heirs the angels are now our servants, doing our bidding.

I use the Angels all the time. If there is a difficult person I have to meet, I send my Angel ahead to smooth the way.

I use my Angel wake me up in the morning, to help me pray, to prompt me and remind me.

As Heirs we given Angels to be our servants, they are an integral part of an Heirs life.

Use the angels mate, they work, proven many times over.

 

[Ben1445]

Well, first y'all claim they should be told NOTHING. Now you concede there IS scripture that contradicts your claims but assume that must exclude any earthly help.

I don’t remember denying that people talked to angels in Scripture. But if I ever run into one in this world, I’ll tell them to worship and praise the Lord. But I’m not about to author “Heaven Is Real” part 2

I have read about angels in the Bible. I’m much more skeptical of the evil and adulterous generation that needs the sign of an angel today. I affirm their existence. But I recognize God for His authority over them to aid me when needed. I desire to be closer to my Saviour. I have no desire to meet the spiritual realm of angels while I am alive.

 

[Ben1445]

“Lest you dash your foot against a rock “

Sounds like angels are concerned about immediate and relatively trivial needs.

And you are applying this Messianic text to yourself?

If you ever stub your toe, is your angel slacking?