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Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 4
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Brightfame52
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So one of the characteristics of God given Repentance is that it leads to an acknowledgement of the Truth as it is in Christ Jesus opposed to false doctrines sown by the devil and his servants 2 Tim 2:25-26
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
Believing false doctrine and lies is a snare of the devil, only God can deliver us from ! 2
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
Believing false doctrine and lies is a snare of the devil, only God can deliver us from ! 2
Brightfame52
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As stated, repentance is a Gift from the Saviour. Now to be more specific, how is it applied to them its given to as a Gift, namely Gods Elect ? Peter tells us here 1 Pet 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
All for whom Christ died, by His Resurrection from the Dead, they shall be begotten again ! These words begotten again are in the greek anagennaó and means:
I beget again, beget into a new life.
to produce again, beget again, beget anew; metaphorically: τινα, thoroughly to change the mind of one, so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God
Notice that it changes the mind of one, this being begotten again. Now what is repentance ? Its the greek word metanoia and means:
repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
So this repentance that is given by and through the resurrection of Christ, being begotten again, effects a change of mind, which what primarily what repentance entails. It gives also change in the inner man.
And so repentance is confirmed to be the Gift of Christ through His resurrection from the dead, and its given to all for whom He died as their Saviour !
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
All for whom Christ died, by His Resurrection from the Dead, they shall be begotten again ! These words begotten again are in the greek anagennaó and means:
I beget again, beget into a new life.
to produce again, beget again, beget anew; metaphorically: τινα, thoroughly to change the mind of one, so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God
Notice that it changes the mind of one, this being begotten again. Now what is repentance ? Its the greek word metanoia and means:
repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
So this repentance that is given by and through the resurrection of Christ, being begotten again, effects a change of mind, which what primarily what repentance entails. It gives also change in the inner man.
And so repentance is confirmed to be the Gift of Christ through His resurrection from the dead, and its given to all for whom He died as their Saviour !
Brightfame52
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Repentance in the matter of Gospel Preaching !
Repentance in the matter of Gospel message is a Salvation Gift, its an Spiritual act that can be performed only by the Spiritual man or woman, the natural man in the state of nature cant perform it, neither is called to perform it. Remember John the Baptist told the hard hearted Pharisees that came to him while performing the baptism of repentance ? Notice his words TO THEM Matt 3:7-9
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
However, Jesus teaches this Matt 7:18
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Repentance toward God Acts 20:21
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thats a Good Fruit, and such that are left in nature cant bring it forth, simply because the natural man is evil and corrupt !
Thats right those in the flesh, the natural man, cant please God Rom 8:8
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Simply stated the unregenerate cant please God ! 3
Repentance in the matter of Gospel message is a Salvation Gift, its an Spiritual act that can be performed only by the Spiritual man or woman, the natural man in the state of nature cant perform it, neither is called to perform it. Remember John the Baptist told the hard hearted Pharisees that came to him while performing the baptism of repentance ? Notice his words TO THEM Matt 3:7-9
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
However, Jesus teaches this Matt 7:18
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Repentance toward God Acts 20:21
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thats a Good Fruit, and such that are left in nature cant bring it forth, simply because the natural man is evil and corrupt !
Thats right those in the flesh, the natural man, cant please God Rom 8:8
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Simply stated the unregenerate cant please God ! 3
Brightfame52
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Scripture that confirms that Jesus Christ as Saviour gives His People repentance, by blessing them and turning them from their sins Acts 3:25-26
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Brightfame52
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Some will say that Christ’s sacrifice is not sufficient for our Salvation without believing, that believing saves, and that without believing, we cannot be saved. These make Christ Crucified out to be a potential saviour, and their act of believing their saviour actual. This notion is dishonorable to Christ !
Brightfame52
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Repentance belongs to the Work of Jesus Christ,its the fruit of His redeeming death/blood.3
Brightfame52
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In light of repentance being of Christ and His Saving prerogative, it's not scriptural to make it a condition for sinners to perform in order to get saved. 3
Ben1445
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Hebrews 12:17
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
Esau sought repentance but there was no opportunity given to him to undo the choice that he had made.
When God grants repentance, He has given the opportunity to return.
It doesn’t mean that God has turned us or repented for us or has forced us to repent.
The Lord says turn you at my reproof. That means God offers the opportunity to turn and requires the action of repentance, a movement towards Him, a surrender of our will to His direction.
Brightfame52
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Doesnt change anything, Jesus Christ in Salvation must give repentance Acts 5:31
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
He gives it, causes it to happen, not provide an opportunity
Ben1445
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A wall has more attentive ears than you.
I didn’t figure that Scripture would change your mind. You see it but you don’t see it.
Brightfame52
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Jesus purchased repentance for them He died for, so He must give it to them. They needed it to be saved, thats what a Saviour from sin does.
Ben1445
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But Jesus is potentially the Saviour of all men. He is only the Saviour of those who come to God by Him.
Brightfame52
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False teaching
Ben1445
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I expected nothing more than that reply.
That is your best answer.
Brightfame52
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I expected no more from you but false teaching
Ben1445
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From your teaching, there are only false teachers apart from you on the BB.
Brightfame52
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All you been doing is rejecting the biblical truth i have given you. Thats Jesus as Saviour gives repentance Acts 5:31
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Then you add your man generated wisdom and say He gives it potentially or He gives an opportunity to repent.