Today, I have "fathered" you?

[Van]

We find this curious phrase several times in scripture. See Psalm 2:7, Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5 and Hebrews 5:5.

The Hebrew word translated as "fathered" by the NASB is "yalad" (H3205) and is used literally to mean to biologically produce someone, but is also used figuratively, as in Psalm 2:7 to mean to install someone in some position for a purpose.

In Acts 13:33 the Greek word is "gennao" (G1080) and is used in this verse to indicate Christ was established for a purpose, i.e. to fulfill His Messianic prophecies. Note the context of verse, God was raising up or bringing forth Jesus for an undertaking.

In Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5 we see Jesus, God incarnate, established for the purpose of fulfilling His role as Redeemer, Lamb of God, the Messiah, Christ, Anointed One.

Thus, this phrase does NOT provide any actual support for the fiction Jesus is a created being.

 

[37818]

We find this curious phrase several times in scripture. See Psalm 2:7, Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5 and Hebrews 5:5.

The Hebrew word translated as "fathered" by the NASB is "yalad" (H3205) and is used literally to mean to biologically produce someone, but is also used figuratively, as in Psalm 2:7 to mean to install someone in some position for a purpose.

In Acts 13:33 the Greek word is "gennao" (G1080) and is used in this verse to indicate Christ was established for a purpose, i.e. to fulfill His Messianic prophecies. Note the context of verse, God was raising up or bringing forth Jesus for an undertaking.

In Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5 we see Jesus, God incarnate, established for the purpose of fulfilling His role as Redeemer, Lamb of God, the Messiah, Christ, Anointed One.

Thus, this phrase does NOT provide any actual support for the fiction Jesus is a created being.

Psalm 2:7 is a prophecy of the bodily resurrection of the incarnate Son of God.

 

[Ascetic X]

We find this curious phrase several times in scripture. See Psalm 2:7, Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5 and Hebrews 5:5.

The Hebrew word translated as "fathered" by the NASB is "yalad" (H3205) and is used literally to mean to biologically produce someone, but is also used figuratively, as in Psalm 2:7 to mean to install someone in some position for a purpose.

In Acts 13:33 the Greek word is "gennao" (G1080) and is used in this verse to indicate Christ was established for a purpose, i.e. to fulfill His Messianic prophecies. Note the context of verse, God was raising up or bringing forth Jesus for an undertaking.

In Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5 we see Jesus, God incarnate, established for the purpose of fulfilling His role as Redeemer, Lamb of God, the Messiah, Christ, Anointed One.

Thus, this phrase does NOT provide any actual support for the fiction Jesus is a created being.

You forgot the essential role of the Son of God, before He was born as the human Jesus — His role as Logos, the Word, the Speaking Into Being Power, the Channel Through Whom the Universe Was Created and Is Sustained, the exact representation of the Father as His Mind and Personality, according to John 1:1 and Hebrews 1:3.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word.

 

[Van]

You forgot the essential role of the Son of God, before He was born as the human Jesus — His role as Logos, the Word, the Speaking Into Being Power, the Channel Through Whom the Universe Was Created and Is Sustained, the exact representation of the Father as His Mind and Personality, according to John 1:1 and Hebrews 1:3.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word.

I did not forget this truth, as presented in your post, because it was also contained in my post. Jesus was NOT created, but is "God incarnate." However, you are correct, I did not mention that one of Christ's purposes was indeed to present God, being an exact representation.

 

[Van]

Psalm 2:7 is a prophecy of the bodily resurrection of the incarnate Son of God.

No, I do not think so. But is certainly a decree by Yahweh, that the Messiah will reign as King, so the idea is to install Logos as King.

 

[37818]

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No, I do not think so. But is certainly a decree by Yahweh, that the Messiah will reign as King, so the idea is to install Logos as King.

Then you disagree with Acts 13:33, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

 

[JesusFan]

We find this curious phrase several times in scripture. See Psalm 2:7, Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5 and Hebrews 5:5.

The Hebrew word translated as "fathered" by the NASB is "yalad" (H3205) and is used literally to mean to biologically produce someone, but is also used figuratively, as in Psalm 2:7 to mean to install someone in some position for a purpose.

In Acts 13:33 the Greek word is "gennao" (G1080) and is used in this verse to indicate Christ was established for a purpose, i.e. to fulfill His Messianic prophecies. Note the context of verse, God was raising up or bringing forth Jesus for an undertaking.

In Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5 we see Jesus, God incarnate, established for the purpose of fulfilling His role as Redeemer, Lamb of God, the Messiah, Christ, Anointed One.

Thus, this phrase does NOT provide any actual support for the fiction Jesus is a created being.

Jesus the man did not existed until the time of the conception in womb of Mary, but he also had eternally preexisted as Word of the Father, and he became the Son of God at the Incarnation