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Repeating themes in Revelation

Alan Dale Gross

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The title of the thread is "Repeating themes in Revelation,"

The first six chapters in this .pdf of MORE THAN CONQUERORS by William Hendriksen are essential to gaining an understanding of how God has Structured the Book of Revelation into Seven Visions or Sections.

Then, we see how each of those Seven Visions or Sections cover the exact same Time Period, as they all overlap one another, telling the same story of Jesus' Spiritual Reign, starting from His Ascension and lasting until Jesus Comes Again, at The End of the World, when He separates the goats from the sheep. See my WordPress blog;

SIXTY-SIX NEW TESTAMENT Verses Teaching

The SECOND COMING of JESUS CHRIST is THE END of TIME.


"A careful reading of the Book of Revelation has made it clear that the book consists of Seven Sections IN THE FORM OF VISIONS, and that these Seven VISIONS or Sections run Parallel to one another. Each of them Spans the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches, during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, covering the Inneradvetal Period of Jesus Christ, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ. This Period is viewed now from one aspect, now from another.


CONTENTS of MORE THAN CONQUERORS by William Hendriksen.

I
PURPOSE, THEME AND AUTHORSHIP OF REVELATION 7

"In the main, the purpose of the book of Revelation is to comfort the militant Church in its struggle against the forces of evil. It is full of help and comfort for persecuted and suffering Christians. To them is given the Assurance that God sees their tears (7: 17; 21: 4); their Prayers are influential in World Affairs (8: 3, 4) and their death is precious in His Sight. Their Final Victory is assured (15: 2); their blood will be Avenged (19: 2); their Christ Lives and Reigns for ever and for ever. He Governs the World in the interest of His Church (5: 7, 8). He is Coming Again to take His people to Himself in ‘the Marriage Supper of the Lamb’ and to Live with them for ever in a Rejuvenated Universe (21: 22)."

II GENERAL ANALYSIS 16

I. THE SEVEN PARALLEL SECTIONS

"1. Christ in the Midst of the Lampstands (i: 1-3: 22) The central theme of the first three chapters of Revelation seems to be Christ in the Midst of the Seven Golden Lamp Stands. These Lampstands represent the Seven Churches (1: 20). To each church John is directed to write a letter (see chapters 2 and 3). As this number seven occurs again and again in the Apocalypse and is everywhere symbolical of completeness, we may safely take it for granted that such is the case here, and that it indicates the entire number of The Lord's New Testament Churches throughout the full span of its existence to the very End of the World.

"Thus interpreted, each individual church is, as it were, a type, not indicating one definite period in history, but describing conditions which are constantly repeated in the actual life of the various congregations.

"Therefore this Section appears to span the entire New Testament Era of the Church Age administration/dispensation, from Christ’s First Coming to Save His people (1: 5) to His Second Coming to Judge all nations (1: 7).

"The last of these Seven Letters is written to the church at Laodicea. It is evident that chapter 4 introduces a new— though closely related—subject.

"2. The Vision of Heaven and the Seals (4: 1-7: 17) Chapters 4-7 constitute the next natural division of the book. Chapter 4 describes the One Who is sitting upon the Throne and the Worship of those who surround Him. In the Right Hand of the Lord there is a book sealed with Seven Seals (5: 1). The Lamb takes this book and receives Adoration. From chapter 6 we learn that the Lamb opens the Seals one by one. Between the Sixth and the Seventh Seals we have the Vision of the one hundred and forty-four thousand who were Sealed and of the countless multitude standing before the Throne.

"It should be carefully noted that this Section also covers the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ. The very first reference to Christ pictures Him as having been slain and as now Ruling from Heaven (5: 5, 6).

"Towards the end of this Section the Final Judgment is introduced. Notice the impression of the Second Coming on unbelievers. ‘And they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the Face of the One sitting on the Throne, and from the Wrath of the Lamb! For it came, the Day, the Great One, of their Wrath; and who is able to stand? ’ (6: 16, 17).

"Now notice the bliss of believers. ‘They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun fall upon them, nor any heat; for the Lamb that is in the Midst of the Throne shall be their Shepherd, and shall Lead them to Life’s Springs of Water; and God shall Wipe away every tear out of their eyes’ (7: 16, 17). This is a picture of the Lord's Churches triumphant, gathered out of all the nations and thus, in their entirety, standing before the Throne and before the Lamb, an ideal which is not realized until the Day of the Great Consummation. We have again spanned the entire Gospel Age.

"3. The Seven Trumpets (8: 1-11: 19) The next section consists of chapters 8-11. Its central theme is the Seven Trumpets that affect the world. What happens to the Lord's Churches is described in chapters 10 and 11 (the Angel with the Little Book, the Two Witnesses). Also at the close of this Section there is a very clear reference to the Final Judgment. ‘The dominion over the world became the Dominion of our Lord, and of His Christ: and He shall Reign for ever and ever. ’.. And the nations were wroth, and Thy Wrath Came, and the Time of the Dead to be Judged... ’ (11: 15, 18). Having reached the End of the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches, during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, covering the Inneradvetal Period of Jesus Christ, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ, the Vision ends.

"4. The Persecuting Dragon (12: 1-14: 20) This brings us to chapters 12-14: the woman and the Man-child persecuted by the dragon and his helpers. This Section also covers the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches, during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, covering the Inneradvetal Period of Jesus Christ, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ, again.

"It begins with a very clear reference to the Birth of the Saviour (12: 5). The dragon threatens to devour the Man-child. The Child is caught up to God and to His Throne. The dragon now persecutes the woman (12: 13). As his agents, he employs the Beast coming up out of the sea (13: 1) and the Beast coming up out of the Earth (13: 11, 12) and the Great Harlot, Babylon (14: 8).

"This Section, too, closes with a stirring description of Christ’s Second Coming in Judgment. ‘And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw One Sitting like unto a Son of man, having on His Head a Golden Crown, and in His Hand a sharp sickle.... And He that sat on the cloud cast His sickle upon the Earth; and the Earth was reaped’ (14: 14, 16).

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Alan Dale Gross

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"5. The Seven Bowls (15: 1-16: 21) The next section comprises chapters 15 and 16 and describes the Bowls of Wrath. Here, too, we have a very clear reference to the Final Judgment and events that will take place in connection with it. Thus we read in 16: 20, ‘And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. ’

"6. The Fall of Babylon (17: 1-19: 21) Next comes a very vivid description of the Fall of Babylon and the punishment inflicted upon the Beast and the False Prophet. Notice the picture of Christ’s Coming unto Judgment (19: n if. ). ‘And I saw the heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon called Faithful and True; and in righteousness he judges and does battle.... ’

"7. The Great Consummation (20: 1-22: 21) This brings us to the Final Section, chapters 20-22, for Revelation 20:1 definitely begins a New Section and introduces a New Subject. This New Subject is the Devil’s Doom. A comparison, moreover, with chapter 12 reveals the fact that at the beginning of chapter 20 we are once more standing on the threshold of the New Vision and Section spanning the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches, during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, covering the Inneradvetal Period of Jesus Christ, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ.

"While in 12:9 we are told that in connection with Christ’s Ascension and Coronation the devil is cast down, here in 20:2, 3 we read that he is bound for a Thousand Years after being cast into the abyss.

"The Thousand Years are followed by the Little Season during which Satan is loosed out of his prison (20: 7). This, in turn, is followed by a description of the Final Overthrow of Satan in connection with Christ’s Coming in Judgment (20: 10, 11 if. ).

"At this Coming the Present Universe, fleeing away, makes room for the New Heaven and Earth, the New Jerusalem (20: n if. ).

- OTHER ARGUMENTS FOR PARALLELISM 19-21

"Proposition I. The Book of Revelation consists of Seven Sections.
They are Parallel and each Spans the entire New Testament Era of the Church Age administration/dispensation, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ."


"A careful reading of the book of Revelation has made it clear that the book consists of Seven Sections, and that these Seven Sections run Parallel to one another. Each of them Spans the entire New Testament Era of the The Lord's Churches, during the Gospel Age administration/dispensation, covering the Inneradvetal Period of Jesus Christ, from the First to the Second Coming of Christ. This period is viewed now from one aspect, now from another."


"III THE UNITY OF THE BOOK 24


"IV PROGRESSIVE TEACHING CONCERNING FINAL JUDGMENT 34

"V SYMBOLISM IN THE BOOK 37

"VI BACKGROUND AND BASIS FOR INTERPRETATION 44

"VII REVELATION 1: THE SON OF MAN 51

"VIII REVELATION 2, 3: THE SEVEN LAMPSTANDS 59

"IX REVELATION 4-7: THE SEVEN SEALS 81

"X REVELATION 8-11: THE SEVEN TRUMPETS 115

"XI REVELATION 12-14: THE CHRIST VERSUS THE DRAGON AND HIS ALLIES 134

"XII REVELATION 15, 16: THE SEVEN BOWLS 157

"XIII REVELATION 17— 19: THE FALL OF THE DRAGON’S ALLIES l66

"XIV REVELATION 20-22! VICTORY THROUGH CHRIST 184
 

John of Japan

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Well, if Revelation is a depiction of a continuous 7 year period, after the rapture of the church and during the great tribulation period…. how can that be consistent with references to historical events such as Satan being cast out of heaven and the birth of Jesus?

I do appreciate your recognition of the repeating themes.

Peace to you
I see no problem. Stephen gave a ton of historical references in Acts before they stoned him. Nothing wrong with historical references.
 

canadyjd

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I see no problem. Stephen gave a ton of historical references in Acts before they stoned him. Nothing wrong with historical references.
The claim is Revelation is literal and covers a 7 year period after the rapture.

The references to these events do not read like someone is saying “remember when Satan was cast out or Jesus was born”

It reads just like all the other verses. The trumpet sounded, this is what I saw.

That is a big problem for the view of a literal, consecutive 7 year period.

Peace to you
 

37818

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There is only what is ,Biblically called a second appearing in Hebrews 9:28, . . . shall he appear the second time . . . .
 

37818

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There is only what is ,Biblically called a second appearing in Hebrews 9:28, . . . shall he appear the second time . . . .
Yea:

Hebrews Chapter 10

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For yet a very little while, He that cometh shall come, and shall not tarry.
Hebrews 10:39, But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

1: John 3:2, Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Titus 2:13-14, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
 

John of Japan

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The claim is Revelation is literal and covers a 7 year period after the rapture.

The references to these events do not read like someone is saying “remember when Satan was cast out or Jesus was born”

It reads just like all the other verses. The trumpet sounded, this is what I saw.

That is a big problem for the view of a literal, consecutive 7 year period.

Peace to you
It's not a big problem to me at all. I have a much harder time interpreting the book allegorically than I do with a plain sense historical reference. There are so many, many things in the book of Revelation that an allegorical interpretation cannot answer.

When we allow allegorical interpretation of anything in the Bible, we then have varying opinions, depending on the person, of what the text means. Once again I quote postmillennialist A. T. Robertson about the 1000 years in Rev. 20: "For a thousand years (chilia etê). Accusative of extent of time. Here we confront the same problem found in the 1260 days. In this book of symbols how long is a thousand years? All sorts of theories are proposed, none of which fully satisfy one" (comments on Rev. 20:2 in Word Pictures in the New Testament, accessed through Power Bible). Only a literal interpretation solves Robertson's problem.
 
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Ben1445

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It would be the same kind of exegesis to say the judgment on the Israelites given in the Book of Daniel was not a literal amount of time determined.
What is there that makes it so that God is not able to keep track of time any longer?
 

canadyjd

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It's not a big problem to me at all. I have a much harder time interpreting the book allegorically than I do with a plain sense historical reference. There are so many, many things in the book of Revelation that an allegorical interpretation cannot answer.

When we allow allegorical interpretation of anything in the Bible, we then have varying opinions, depending on the person, of what the text means. Once again I quote postmillennialist A. T. Robertson about the 1000 years in Rev. 20: "For a thousand years (chilia etê). Accusative of extent of time. Here we confront the same problem found in the 1260 days. In this book of symbols how long is a thousand years? All sorts of theories are proposed, none of which fully satisfy one" (comments on Rev. 20:2 in Word Pictures in the New Testament, accessed through Power Bible). Only a literal interpretation solves Robertson's problem.
This is a deflection from the question.

How can the claim Revelation refers to a literal, 7 year period after the rapture stand when there is an obvious reference both to the fall of Satan and the birth of Jesus?

I agree with you, these are historical references. I disagree that it somehow has no impact on the literal, 7 year view.

How can these historical references not impact a literal 7 year view? That is simply illogical, and clearly not accurate.

Peace to you
 

John of Japan

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This is a deflection from the question.

How can the claim Revelation refers to a literal, 7 year period after the rapture stand when there is an obvious reference both to the fall of Satan and the birth of Jesus?

I agree with you, these are historical references. I disagree that it somehow has no impact on the literal, 7 year view.

How can these historical references not impact a literal 7 year view? That is simply illogical, and clearly not accurate.

Peace to you
My brother wrote a book which was a combination biography of John R. Rice and a polemic against slavery. It had a modern perspective, but dealt with an ancestor of ours who had slaves in Missouri. Thus, it is a modern polemic with historical perspective. (See it at The Sword of the Lord: The Roots of Fundamentalism in an American Family: Himes, Andrew, Palmer, Parker J.: 9781453843758: Amazon.com: Books).

It's a mystery to me why you think that is not allowable. Why would a reference to the birth of Christ be not allowed in a book about His second coming? And the second coming of Christ is the whole point of the book!!
 
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