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Faith # 6

Brightfame52

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Worthless dead faith in regards to spiritual realities !

Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Who are they in the flesh ? Its everyone by nature, everyone without the Spirit or New Birth , all the unregenerate, which all are without exception !


Now does the natural man in the flesh have faith, sure they do, but it doesnt please God, its Spiritually worthless, unprofitable Rom 3:11-12

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

The greek word for unprofitable is achreioó and means:

(lit: I become sour, I turn, of milk), I am good for nothing, render useless; met: I become corrupt.

Now understand, the natural mans faith is in Spiritual matters good for nothing, useless, corrupt, that's not to say its that way in natural affairs , but in the Affairs of God and His Kingdom and His Christ, its carnal and fleshly, and its enmity against God, because its from the mind of the carnal man Rom 8:7-8, for True Spiritual Faith submits to God , Rom 10:3 however the carnal mind doesn't and cannot. The faith of a man by nature is absolutely irrelevant in regards to Salvation and Spiritual Truth, cannot receive its doctrines 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Gospel of ones Salvation must be spiritually discerned ! Other wise the Truths of it [the Gospel] cannot be comprehended, except in a low grade carnal sense which is worthless unto any true Gospel Obedience and Conversion to God ! 16
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member

37818 -> Today at 1:16 AM - #109
@Brightfame52,
Faith is essential to knowing anything.


Hebrews 11:6, But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to GOD must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.
John 17:17, Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Romans 10:17, So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of GOD.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Word is GOD->John 1:1. GOD Himself. Around 2000 years ago or 4000 years after Adam->(fourth Day-Genesis 1:16-Greater Light) was made flesh, and He said:->John 5:17(combined with John 12:44-50, take a look->My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Again, as above: ->
Hebrews 11:6, But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to GOD must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.

Isaiah 55;6 warned us all, saying:->6 Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near: ->And the Lord JESUS warned us all, saying: Matthew 25:5-6 and 10-:->
5
While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight->(at the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day and las Day,or from the sixth to the seventh and last millennium,there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.

10 And while they(the foolish virgins) went to buy(oil), the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with Him to the marriage: and the door was shut. NOTE: ->Whoever is selling or buying oil from the two olive trees, the source of oil(Zechariah 4:11-12 combined with Revelation 11:4), they will both lose their souls for all eternity. God forbid.

REMEMBER - Revelation 16:13-15, as follow:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon(Revelation 12:7 and 12),and out of the mouth of the Beast,(Revelation 13:1-10)-> and out of the mouth of the false prophet.->(John 5:43-47)

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.->(Revelation 1:8 and 7, take a look). He warned, as follow:

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.->(as is written in Genesis 3:8-10, take a look).

That's it.


 

37818

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Isaiah 55:6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: . . .

God is omnipresen

Psalm 139:7, Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 55:6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: . . .

God is omnipresen

Psalm 139:7, Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
Yes, GOD is Omnipresent. Whither shall we go from His Spirit? or whither shall we flee from His presence?

 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
We must first be of God !


Now Faith cometh by hearing ! Rom 10:17

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

However before we can hear in order to believe/have Faith, we must first be of God, or born of God Jn 8:43,47

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Cannot means not able to !

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In this verse Jesus tells us who it is that hears Gods Words. He later tells us that these ones are also His Sheep Jn 10:2-3,15-16,26-27

But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Also He describeth them that hear as these Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

What does it mean to be of the Truth ? I believe its born of the Spirit, wherein He is also called the Spirit of Truth Jn 16:13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

See also 1 Jn 4:6;5:6 !

To be of God is to be born of God, and faith is the fruit of being born of God 1 Jn 5:4

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Our Faith here is regarding them who have been born of God, not the natural man ! By nature we are not overcomers of the World, but the world overcomes us, but the Faith which overcomes the World, is the Faith of the Son of God, for He as Our Surety Representative overcame the world for us, He overcame not for Himself, but for those whom the Father had given Him, hence He saith Jn 16:33

33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Most people do not understand, Jesus here in these words "I have overcome the world" speaks not as an private individual, but as the Last Adam, the Head of an Elect race Chosen in Him before the foundation, and this Overcoming Faith of the Son of God, the Last Adam is communicated to His Seed, or to the Members of His Body, them He overcame the world in behalf of, hence like Paul we shall have the overcoming Faith of the Son of God Gal 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

This Faith is the fruit of Christ's Spirit in them Gal 5:22, which Spirit is given to us at New Birth, and it seals us as His Own Rom 8:9

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit, are all the same !

Its Blasphemy to think, suggest, or to say, that Gospel obeying Faith, from hearing the Word of God, that it comes from the carnal hearts and minds of unregenerate men and women, its like saying that the carnal, natural man overcame the world ! 16
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
We must first be of God !


Now Faith cometh by hearing ! Rom 10:17

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

However before we can hear in order to believe/have Faith, we must first be of God, or born of God Jn 8:43,47

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Cannot means not able to !

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In this verse Jesus tells us who it is that hears Gods Words. He later tells us that these ones are also His Sheep Jn 10:2-3,15-16,26-27

But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Also He describeth them that hear as these Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

What does it mean to be of the Truth ? I believe its born of the Spirit, wherein He is also called the Spirit of Truth Jn 16:13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

See also 1 Jn 4:6;5:6 !

To be of God is to be born of God, and faith is the fruit of being born of God 1 Jn 5:4

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Our Faith here is regarding them who have been born of God, not the natural man ! By nature we are not overcomers of the World, but the world overcomes us, but the Faith which overcomes the World, is the Faith of the Son of God, for He as Our Surety Representative overcame the world for us, He overcame not for Himself, but for those whom the Father had given Him, hence He saith Jn 16:33

33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Most people do not understand, Jesus here in these words "I have overcome the world" speaks not as an private individual, but as the Last Adam, the Head of an Elect race Chosen in Him before the foundation, and this Overcoming Faith of the Son of God, the Last Adam is communicated to His Seed, or to the Members of His Body, them He overcame the world in behalf of, hence like Paul we shall have the overcoming Faith of the Son of God Gal 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

This Faith is the fruit of Christ's Spirit in them Gal 5:22, which Spirit is given to us at New Birth, and it seals us as His Own Rom 8:9

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit, are all the same !

Its Blasphemy to think, suggest, or to say, that Gospel obeying Faith, from hearing the Word of God, that it comes from the carnal hearts and minds of unregenerate men and women, its like saying that the carnal, natural man overcame the world ! 16
Are you speaking in faith now? Are you still sleeping? Speaking of faith, what did our Lord JESUS say, and His Word is fulfilling LITERALLY? What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, opinion is good for nothing.

Luke 18:8 -> Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find FAITH on the earth?
JESUS was prophesying about the coming of this undesirable and PERILOUS time for His Church at His return, saying:->" Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find FAITH on the earth?" ->

Interpreting Matthew 24:3 → JESUS just had prophesied the destruction of the Temple(Matthew 24:1-2), then He and His disciples went to the Mount of Olives, located around 6 km from the Temple, and the disciples still astonished or perplexed, they privately asked two questions to the Lord JESUS. saying:
1st thing:→ about time: → WHEN shall these things be?

2nd thing -> What shall be the SIGN of thy coming?

3rd thing: → and the SIGN of the END of the WORLD? ->(this current WORLD in which you/we are living for now, understand?)

Well, the testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. So He LISTED several events(Matthew 24:3-8):->linked: ->(1st thing) to the future time when they would happen. JESUS didn't specify dates, of course, but he made it clear what would begin to happen from then on by the signs->(Matthew 24:3-8but the END is not yet). And (2nd thing) it is linked to the signs of His coming; and (3rd thing) to the END of the world → end of the current Devil's world. JESUS listed the signs and revealed these events of His coming are period of sorrows, and pre-tribulation period.


JESUS said that to find faith on earth at the time of His coming is very rare. Why? JESUS himself tells us why: -> Matthew 24:9-14:
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall BETRAY one another(proliferation of denominational churches and now carnal and devilish movements called gospel), and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise(false preachers of the Word of GOD->2Corinthians 11:13-15 combined with Revelation 16:13-15), and shall deceive many.

12 And because INIQUITY shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.-> (2Timothy 3:1-5 and 1Timothy 4:1-2, take a look)

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world->(Revelation 11:15-18) for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END come.

The apostles also prophesied about this time, speaking exactly what JESUS said about faith; of course, they had the Spirit of Christ, reason by which they spoke the same things that JESUS spoke, of course.

1Corinthians 15:24-28 and 51-55 ->(combined with Revelation 11:15-18, take a look)

24
The END cometh, when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to GOD(Revelation 11:15-18), even the Father; when he shall have PUT DOWN all RULE and all AUTHORITY and POWER.

25 For He must reign, till he hath put all enemies UNDER HIS FEET.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27
For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that GOD may be all in all.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

BE PREPARED AND CAREFUL, OR ELSE GET READY - MATTHEW 25:6-10.

WAKE UP!

 
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