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Brightfame52

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Worthless dead faith in regards to spiritual realities !

Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Who are they in the flesh ? Its everyone by nature, everyone without the Spirit or New Birth , all the unregenerate, which all are without exception !


Now does the natural man in the flesh have faith, sure they do, but it doesnt please God, its Spiritually worthless, unprofitable Rom 3:11-12

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

The greek word for unprofitable is achreioó and means:

(lit: I become sour, I turn, of milk), I am good for nothing, render useless; met: I become corrupt.

Now understand, the natural mans faith is in Spiritual matters good for nothing, useless, corrupt, that's not to say its that way in natural affairs , but in the Affairs of God and His Kingdom and His Christ, its carnal and fleshly, and its enmity against God, because its from the mind of the carnal man Rom 8:7-8, for True Spiritual Faith submits to God , Rom 10:3 however the carnal mind doesn't and cannot. The faith of a man by nature is absolutely irrelevant in regards to Salvation and Spiritual Truth, cannot receive its doctrines 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Gospel of ones Salvation must be spiritually discerned ! Other wise the Truths of it [the Gospel] cannot be comprehended, except in a low grade carnal sense which is worthless unto any true Gospel Obedience and Conversion to God ! 16
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member

37818 -> Today at 1:16 AM - #109
@Brightfame52,
Faith is essential to knowing anything.


Hebrews 11:6, But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to GOD must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.
John 17:17, Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Romans 10:17, So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of GOD.
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The Word is GOD->John 1:1. GOD Himself. Around 2000 years ago or 4000 years after Adam->(fourth Day-Genesis 1:16-Greater Light) was made flesh, and He said:->John 5:17(combined with John 12:44-50, take a look->My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Again, as above: ->
Hebrews 11:6, But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to GOD must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.

Isaiah 55;6 warned us all, saying:->6 Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near: ->And the Lord JESUS warned us all, saying: Matthew 25:5-6 and 10-:->
5
While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight->(at the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day and las Day,or from the sixth to the seventh and last millennium,there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.

10 And while they(the foolish virgins) went to buy(oil), the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with Him to the marriage: and the door was shut. NOTE: ->Whoever is selling or buying oil from the two olive trees, the source of oil(Zechariah 4:11-12 combined with Revelation 11:4), they will both lose their souls for all eternity. God forbid.

REMEMBER - Revelation 16:13-15, as follow:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon(Revelation 12:7 and 12),and out of the mouth of the Beast,(Revelation 13:1-10)-> and out of the mouth of the false prophet.->(John 5:43-47)

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.->(Revelation 1:8 and 7, take a look). He warned, as follow:

15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.->(as is written in Genesis 3:8-10, take a look).

That's it.


 

37818

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 55:6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: . . .

God is omnipresen

Psalm 139:7, Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 55:6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: . . .

God is omnipresen

Psalm 139:7, Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
Yes, GOD is Omnipresent. Whither shall we go from His Spirit? or whither shall we flee from His presence?

 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
We must first be of God !


Now Faith cometh by hearing ! Rom 10:17

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

However before we can hear in order to believe/have Faith, we must first be of God, or born of God Jn 8:43,47

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Cannot means not able to !

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

In this verse Jesus tells us who it is that hears Gods Words. He later tells us that these ones are also His Sheep Jn 10:2-3,15-16,26-27

But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.


15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Also He describeth them that hear as these Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

What does it mean to be of the Truth ? I believe its born of the Spirit, wherein He is also called the Spirit of Truth Jn 16:13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

See also 1 Jn 4:6;5:6 !

To be of God is to be born of God, and faith is the fruit of being born of God 1 Jn 5:4

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Our Faith here is regarding them who have been born of God, not the natural man ! By nature we are not overcomers of the World, but the world overcomes us, but the Faith which overcomes the World, is the Faith of the Son of God, for He as Our Surety Representative overcame the world for us, He overcame not for Himself, but for those whom the Father had given Him, hence He saith Jn 16:33

33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Most people do not understand, Jesus here in these words "I have overcome the world" speaks not as an private individual, but as the Last Adam, the Head of an Elect race Chosen in Him before the foundation, and this Overcoming Faith of the Son of God, the Last Adam is communicated to His Seed, or to the Members of His Body, them He overcame the world in behalf of, hence like Paul we shall have the overcoming Faith of the Son of God Gal 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

This Faith is the fruit of Christ's Spirit in them Gal 5:22, which Spirit is given to us at New Birth, and it seals us as His Own Rom 8:9

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit, are all the same !

Its Blasphemy to think, suggest, or to say, that Gospel obeying Faith, from hearing the Word of God, that it comes from the carnal hearts and minds of unregenerate men and women, its like saying that the carnal, natural man overcame the world ! 16
 
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