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The text of the 1769 Oxford Edition of the KJV

Logos1560

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This web site claims to have the text of an actual 1769 Oxford KJV edition.

archive.org/details/kjv-1769-oxford-edition-full-bible


Since today's post-1900 KJV editions are claimed to be the 1769, some web sites have identified a post-1900 KJV edition as the 1769 when their edition is not actually the 1769. An actual 1769 Oxford KJV edition would provide verifiable facts that would prove numerous claims and assertions made by KJV-only authors to be incorrect.
 

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Here are a few sample claims made by KJV-only authors concerning the 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV.

Al Lacy maintained that "the 1769 edition of the 1611 King James Bible is PERFECT" (Can I Trust My Bible, p. 144). Al Lacy claimed: “The King James Bible we have today is the 1769 edition. You will please note that it is number SEVEN. There has never been another edition since” (Ibid.). Steve Combs declared: “The KJB went through several editions to correct printer errors and to standardize spelling. The final one was 1769” (So Shall, p. 165). Terence McLean asserted: “It is the 1769 edition which we now read” (History of Your Bible, p. 48). Terence McLean wrote: “Those are changes in orthography and calligraphy, not changes in the text of God’s perfectly preserved words in your King James Authorized 1769 Bible” (p. 49). Lawrence Bednar referred to “KJV language up-dating, up to the final 1769 edition” (Evidence, p. 72; see also p. 276). Lawrence Bednar claimed that “the finalized KJB text is inerrant” and that “inerrancy will extent to the final authorized 1769 KJB edition” (Case, p. 102). Jack Koons wrote: “Since the last correction made in 1769, there has been NO CHANGES (from an authentic King James Bible). The King James Version has remained unchanged for 248 years” (What Is so Special, p. 207). Joey Faust maintained that "nothing after 1769 is a true edition" (Common Man‘s Defense of KJV-onlyism, p. 43). William Sutton maintained that in 1769 “this would be the last time God’s fingerprints ever touched the Holy Bible” (Holy Bible Code, Vol. 7, p. 169). William Sutton claimed: “Upon His completion of the 1769 edition of The Holy Bible the Divine Author permanently departed from His creative work of the Bible. Thus it stands divinely authorized, complete, and perfect” (Ibid.). William Sutton asserted: “The only alterations made to the 1769 edition of the KJV were merely spelling and capitalization; no words were ever changed” (p. 675). William Sutton claimed: “From 1769 onward this revised edition became God’s final and finished work” (p. 677).


D. A. Waite claimed that the KJV is “a fixed phenomenon” and he asserted: “there hasn’t been any changes in it for centuries. In the 1700’s there were some changes in spelling, but other than that it has stayed the same for centuries” (Central Seminary Refuted, p. 141). Floyd Jones asserted: “To summarize, the character of the textual changes is that of obvious printing errors, not changes made to alter the reading” (Which Version, 21st edition, p. 75). Phil Stringer claimed: “A 1769 Paris-Blayney revision of the King James Bible is properly called a 1611 King James Bible because no new translation work has been done and no new textual authority has been introduced” (Unbroken Bible, p. 288). Jonathan Wheatley wrote: “The uniformity of spelling (orthography) of the written English language was not settled in the English Bible until after the publication of Samuel Johnson’s English dictionary in 1755, and the subsequent publication of the 1769 Standard Oxford Revision by Dr. Blayney” (Unique Words, p. 14, footnote 7). Cody Parrott claimed: “One little-known fact is that for the past 250 years, all ‘King James Version’ Bibles published anywhere by any publisher are actually Bla[y]ney’s 1769 Revised Oxford Edition of the 1611 King James Bible” (Translation War, p. 199).
 

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KJV defender Laurence Vance wrote: “There are 750 differences between the 1769 Blayney edition of the Authorized Version and modern King James Bibles: 461 Old Testament and 189 New Testament” (Text of the KJB, p. 220).

KJV-only author Matthew Verschuur asserted: “One of the most enduring myths regarding the King James Bible is that the common and standard edition in use in the 20th and 21st centuries is the 1769 Edition” (Vintage Bibles, p. 47).
 
Since it is now more and more difficult to find a legitimate 1769 edition, I guess God has failed to preserve his "Perfect Preserved word?" This seems to be the only conclusion of which one could arrive!

Once upon a time, I was entrenched among the most hard-core of KJV-Only types and was quite proud of my zeal! The "Every jot and tittle" argument quickly falls apart when you compare different printings of the King James Bible. I still use and prefer my KJV but I also keep an ESV close by.
 
But which edition?
I really haven't taken the time to check. Does it matter?:Roflmao

As of right now, I have an ESV Study Bible and an ESV MacArthur Study Bible in my library.

I also have an old Cambridge Wide Margin KJV (a "real" KJV) that I have had since my hard-core KJVO days. I guess I had better keep that one under lock and key!
 

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I really haven't taken the time to check. Does it matter?:Roflmao
There are now at least three different texts of English Standard Version being published! There are Roman Catholic, Evangelical, and Gideons editions, that do not match at certain verses.

Maybe Logos1560 can get to work exposing that?
 

JesusFan

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There are now at least three different texts of English Standard Version being published! There are Roman Catholic, Evangelical, and Gideons editions, that do not match at certain verses.

Maybe Logos1560 can get to work exposing that?
the ESVO types not nearly as militant as KJVO though
 

JesusFan

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Since it is now more and more difficult to find a legitimate 1769 edition, I guess God has failed to preserve his "Perfect Preserved word?" This seems to be the only conclusion of which one could arrive!

Once upon a time, I was entrenched among the most hard-core of KJV-Only types and was quite proud of my zeal! The "Every jot and tittle" argument quickly falls apart when you compare different printings of the King James Bible. I still use and prefer my KJV but I also keep an ESV close by.
Thought KJVO stated the 1873 cambridge came down from heaven itself?
 

Conan

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There are now at least three different texts of English Standard Version being published! There are Roman Catholic, Evangelical, and Gideons editions, that do not match at certain verses.

Maybe Logos1560 can get to work exposing that?
They're are no English Standard Version onlyies. And no one is claiming there are no changes to the different editions of the ESV. There are people claiming the KJV has never changed, or there were only spelling changes.
 
They're are no English Standard Version onlyies. And no one is claiming there are no changes to the different editions of the ESV. There are people claiming the KJV has never changed, or there were only spelling changes.
Well perhaps we ought to start an ESV-Only movement then right?

But how do we answer those asking "Where was the Word of God before 2001?":Roflmao
 

JesusFan

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I do not think so.
The King James Only (KJVO) view on the 1873 Cambridge KJV (edited by F.H.A. Scrivener) is generally high due to its meticulous accuracy in cleaning up printing errors from previous editions, often called the "5th purification" of the text. However, some stricter KJVO adherents distrust it for reintroducing 1611 spellings, experimenting with paragraph form, and departing slightly from the standard 1769 Oxford text.
Key Aspects of the 1873 Cambridge KJV in KJVO View:
  • Highly Accurate Editing: Many, including [Edward Hills], view Scrivener’s 1873 work as a superior, scholarly effort that corrected long-standing typos (e.g., "Zithri" at Exodus 6:21) and restored the text to its most accurate form.
  • "Purified" Text: It is regarded by some as the final, most refined edition of the Authorized Version.
 
The King James Only (KJVO) view on the 1873 Cambridge KJV (edited by F.H.A. Scrivener) is generally high due to its meticulous accuracy in cleaning up printing errors from previous editions, often called the "5th purification" of the text. However, some stricter KJVO adherents distrust it for reintroducing 1611 spellings, experimenting with paragraph form, and departing slightly from the standard 1769 Oxford text.
Key Aspects of the 1873 Cambridge KJV in KJVO View:
  • Highly Accurate Editing: Many, including [Edward Hills], view Scrivener’s 1873 work as a superior, scholarly effort that corrected long-standing typos (e.g., "Zithri" at Exodus 6:21) and restored the text to its most accurate form.
  • "Purified" Text: It is regarded by some as the final, most refined edition of the Authorized Version.
I always thought it was the Oxford 1762 and Cambridge 1769 editions that were considered as the "Gold Standard."
 
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