Do Guarding Angels exist?

[Cathode]

Most Protestants do refrain from angel worship and praying to angels.

Catholics refrain from Angel worship as well, but we do use them as our servants.

And obviously most reject the superstition that there are angels for specific occupations.

And I genuinely ask them. What do you know about it?

What encounters have they had with the Angels?
None. Angels are just on the page for them, they are talking in ignorance of the reality.

They have never cultivated a relationship with the Angels or even their own guardian Angels. They have lived in complete ignorance of the whole spiritual ecosystem.

 

[JonC]

I haven’t just gauged from this board, but on many forums, and in life.

We often form opinions based on our experiences.

My experience as a Protestant for over 50 years, attending churches in over 8 states and 3 countries, is that you are wrong.

Also, I can attest to the fact that Baptist seminaries certainly do not teach that angels are literally and not encountered in our lives.

But my experiences strictly with Baptist churches (and not Reformed Baptist churches) and two Baptist seminaries.


I am sure you get the same. I know that Catholic doctrine does not teach you to worship angles, or icons. But my experience with Catholics (on boards and in person) has taught me that most do.

 

[JonC]

Catholics refrain from Angel worship as well, but we do use them as our servants.



And I genuinely ask them. What do you know about it?

What encounters have they had with the Angels?
None. Angels are just on the page for them, they are talking in ignorance of the reality.

They have never cultivated a relationship with the Angels or even their own guardian Angels. They have lived in complete ignorance of the whole spiritual ecosystem.

Some Catholics do refrain from angel worship, I agree. Most I have encountered do not (their obedience to God on that issue is merely on a page, not in practice).

I do not doubt that you have encountered people who rationalize anything supernatural that occurs today as natural - to include encountering angels. Just look at those on this board who declare that gifts of God no longer exist.

My answer -just to give you a different experience- is that I know angles exist and are active today. I believe we encountered angles quite often, sometimes unaware and sometimes realizing (often afterwards).

What I know is what God has told me. What I believe is in line with what God told me but not exactly the same weight (opinion vs fact).

I know that we do not use angles as messengers. I believe those who think they do are interacting with demons who draw them away from God.

 

[Cathode]

We often form opinions based on our experiences.

My experience as a Protestant for over 50 years, attending churches in over 8 states and 3 countries, is that you are wrong.

Also, I can attest to the fact that Baptist seminaries certainly do not teach that angels are literally and not encountered in our lives.

But my experiences strictly with Baptist churches (and not Reformed Baptist churches) and two Baptist seminaries.


I am sure you get the same. I know that Catholic doctrine does not teach you to worship angles, or icons. But my experience with Catholics (on boards and in person) has taught me that most do.

If Catholic doctrine does not teach people to worship angels, those who engage in Angel worship are not Catholic.

Not only does Catholic doctrine not teach Angel worship, it condemns it emphatically.

Do you see how ridiculous and illogical your position is?
Do you lump Walter and myself in that category of Catholic Angel worshippers?

What does an Angel worship ceremony look like Jon, I have never seen one Jon?

Claiming Catholics worship angels is false witness, with all the penalties this is awarded.
Every idle word is judged whether written or spoken.

 

[rockytopva]

If Catholic doctrine does not teach people to worship angels, those who engage in Angel worship are not Catholic.

Not only does Catholic doctrine not teach Angel worship, it condemns it emphatically.

Do you see how ridiculous and illogical your position is?
Do you lump Walter and myself in that category of Catholic Angel worshippers?

What does an Angel worship ceremony look like Jon, I have never seen one Jon?

Claiming Catholics worship angels is false witness, with all the penalties this is awarded.
Every idle word is judged whether written or spoken.

There are over 10,000 saints in the Catholic church... And Catholics pray to saints!

 

[Armchair Apologist]

Catholics refrain from Angel worship as well, but we do use them as our servants.



And I genuinely ask them. What do you know about it?

What encounters have they had with the Angels?
None. Angels are just on the page for them, they are talking in ignorance of the reality.

They have never cultivated a relationship with the Angels or even their own guardian Angels. They have lived in complete ignorance of the whole spiritual ecosystem.

I believe that JonC is mixing up angels with the Catholic view of "Patron Saints" of which you can likely find a patron saint that correllates with your particular vocation.

Patron Saints Medals

I will not unnecessarily besmirch the Roman Catholic Church as I was raised in this institution and my mother still remains quite devout but there are a significant number of Catholic groups that are off in the deep end in their beliefs and superstitions!

Case in point, would you agree with this? Why or why not?