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Trump all out war against Iran guarantees defeat of America
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You kinda have to give some blame to Biden for Iran. He did help them to stabilize enough to grow stronger while Iran continued supporting terrorism.
The problem with Trump with Iran is he walks loudly and carries no stick.
As many times Trump has given deadlines or else, extended the deadline, extended it again, agreed to a ceasefire that never held, threatened with a deadline.... rinse and repeat...Iran would be foolish to take him seriously.
I do not think most Americans take him seriously anymore when it comes to Iran. All those things he said he would destroy in four days if Iran did not comply are still there, and it has been a couple of months.
That's not true at all. They are conservative Christians. Both used to be the biggest Trump supporters on this planet. McGregor always praised Trump and pointed out the wrong doing of the Democrats. He worked directly for Trump in his first Administration. Trump tried to make him ambassador to Germany or Poland (I forgot which) but the military industrial complex shot it down. To call Colonel's Davis or McGregor liberals is not telling the truth.
Everyone has a podcast.Very informative. I wish the whole country could hear this truth.
Trump All-Out War Against Iran Guarantees Defeat - of America /Lt Col Daniel Davis
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Here is from the former Ambassador to Israel from Great Britain.
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Alastair Crooke : US Middle East Dominance is Ended
Alastair Crooke : US Middle East Dominance is Ended
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canadyjd
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Well there you have it. Everything is a conspiracy, all attacks home and abroad are organized by some elite ruling class that fuels the war machine bringing profits to the billionaires.
Man, I am so glad you figured that out before it’s too late.
(I’m being sarcastic, just in case you missed it)
I’ll leave you to your delusions
Peace to you
You have never even heard of the industrial military complex that Eisenhower warned us about. I'll bet you think George Soros helps people. I'll bet you think the CIA works for you, or is here to protect you. I'll bet you don't even know that Biden Obama Clinton Bush and Trump has lied to you before. I'll bet you still think Sadam Husien of Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and if Trump said so for another war you would once again fall for it. I'll bet you are so brainwashed you don't think the Soviet Union destroyed Hitler. I'll bet you think COVID 19 was created by nature and not a lab. I'll bet you do not know that the CIA experimented on people with LSD including the unibomber. I will bet you still don't know the Gulf of Tonkin incident was not true. I am not trying to be mean to you. At some point you have to open your eyes and quit believing the narrative written for you by FOX CNN and BBC.
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Foxmeister
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You can't just blame Biden when it comes to Iran. There's plenty of blame to go around; left and right.
Netanyahu knew how to play Trump and it wasn't difficult. Praise Trump all the time and he'll pretty much do what you want. Tick him off and your dirt to him. Billboards all over Israel praising Trump as a defender of Israel. Trump has said if he ran for president in Israel he would win. That's exactly what Netanyahu led him to believe and why Trump believed the false intelligence reporting from Israel on Iran.
This war and the adverse effects it's causing our country have set the Democrats up for a big win this November.
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We can definitely blame Biden, but yes, not only Biden. If it were not for Biden we probably would not have entered a conflict with Iran (although "a" conflict was needed, we did not engage Iran because it sponsors terrorism). We engaged Iran because of Biden's nuclear policy with the country.
Biden sought to return to the 2015 accord. Not only did Biden fail, but to appease Iran he eased sanctions and released funding (between a deal to swap prisiiners and ease sanctions Biden released $16 billion).
This directly led to the current conflict. Biden tried, failed, and to de-escalate met Iran's demands. And Iran continued expanding its enriched uranium stockpiles, reducing International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) oversight, and shortening its nuclear breakout time.
I am not saying that Trump is doing any better, but what we are dealing with now is Biden's fault (not Iran continuing to expand its enriched uranium stockpiles, they were doing that with or without Biden, but Biden provided resources Iran needed to strengthen its terrorism program).
What Biden did was reverse rhe pressure and sanctions Trump had implemented during his first term. Biden was very wrong, but it was politics. It eased tentions (whole strengthening terrorism) to avoid conflict during his administration as the DNC would otherwise be on shakey ground when his term ended. What Biden did was a political move at the expense of lives.
But again, Trump is failing at the task as well (for the same reason - politics). He is now all talk.
canadyjd
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You do a lot of speculation about what people you disagree with believe.
You have drank the cool-aide, my friend, and washed it down with a great pile of cowpie which you regurgitate every time you post.
I’ll make a deal with you. Don’t mention me or quote me and I’ll leave your thread
Peace to you
You think too highly of yourself and you talking down to a veteran that deployed for 30 months shows you lack charactor and respect. This nation will not defend Israel when it matters, Yahweh has already recorded our stupidity and it is, therefore a fact. When this nation falls it will mark the end. We abuse no one.
Foxmeister
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I retired from the Army in 2010 with 30 years of service with deployments to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan (twice) and Iraq. I don't know where you're getting your information that "America will never reinforce any military base in the Persian Gulf again," from. It doesn't make any sense at all. Any military member telling you that is full of nonsense. I do agree with you about Trump being a liar. He lies all the time. I don't trust the man at all.
It's Christians regardless of what nation they live in who should be sharing the Gospel. I do think you need to turn your tone down a notch or two because they way you're conducting yourself is turning people off. When you do that, they'll never take you seriously. Instead they will just start ignoring you all together.
Foxmeister
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I'm curious as to where you deployed to for 30 months.
Foxmeister
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I have to say that our military industrial complex is making out like a bandit because of our support to Ukraine and Israel. We give hundreds of millions of dollars to Israel a year that has to be used to buy military equipment from our defense contractors. Then there's this war with Iran where our munitions and equipment need to be replenished and maintain. Let's not forget how profits are increasing for the American oil industry. Depending upon the company, they saw 42%-56% increases in their second quarter profits this year because of the reduction of global oil supply from the Persian Gulf being cutoff with the Strait of Hormuz closed. Is this war really about nukes or is it about money?
The US has not failed in Iran.
Trump actually weakened Iran (Biden strengthened Iran). The problem now is politics.
I do not know if a war with Iran can be won. If the terrorists loose power over Iran they will still exist, just not over Iran.
But time has not ran out (it is too early to know how this administration will fare). And top much politics is involved.
The gains - a weakened Iran (militarily). A weakened Iranian economy. The withdrawal of the UAE from OPEC. The disruption to Iran's nuclear program.
While I am not satisfied with Trump's handling of Iran, he certainly handled the problem better than those in the recent past. He has not lost, yet. And may not. I just do not see a solution.
And I am a retired Army combat engineer (retired in 2014, 23 years).
canadyjd
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No doubt. There will always be people that profit from war.
This is a religious war on the part of Iran. Yes they want nukes and they would drop one on Israel and Washington DC if they had the means. Islam demands world domination, death to Jews and Christians, conversion or enslavement for everyone else.
DT has many faults, which I have pointed out on this board.
However, I don’t doubt his motive. He is stopping the Iranian threat that other Presidents have complained about for decades and have done nothing
Peace to you
Foxmeister
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Trump's personal wealth has increased by more than $4 billion since taking office this term. If you don't think his actions as president had any effect on this, think again. When he dismissed the regulations on cryptocurrency that the Biden administration enacted, he saw a significant gain in his.
The invasion of Venezuela had nothing to do with fentanyl coming from there to here. Those boats he had our military destroy were taking the fentanyl to the Caribbean and then would have been shipped to the Africa. He claimed during this attacks on boats that Venezuelans had an election and the regime prevented the real winners from taking office. He said there would be a regime change to allow those who actually won to take office. The result? With the exception of Maduro, the same government remains. Trump says they're doing everything they want him to do. He wanted to give back to the US oil companies the wells they once had, but they didn't want to invest the money and that didn't sit well with Trump.
Now there's Iran. Yes, Trump did something when it comes to that country and it's resulted in more value for his cryptocurrency and opened Pandora's box at the same time. Trump overplayed his hand. What he believed would result in an easy win over Iran has turned into a failure. Iran holds the cards now and is dictating the terms to peace. As long as the Strait of Hormuz is closed the global economy will continue to decline. China depends on Iran for 45% of its oil. That's huge on their economy. Their military is strong. It has more munitions than we now have thanks to our country keeping Ukraine well armed and what we have expended here. Thanks to him, our national defense has now grown weaker.
Trump's narcissism is his biggest fault. He has stated over and over how he is the greatest president this country has ever had. He claims our economy today is the greatest it's ever been. It's safe to say "Trump's a legend in his own mind."
Agreed...100%
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