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Trump all out war against Iran guarantees defeat of America

th1bill

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WW III is in the air and Bibi and Trump are working to keep it from the rest of the world. People had best become obedient to Yahweh and take Yashua as their own.
 

JonC

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The Biden administration has absolutely nothing to do with the gas price increases occurring under the Trump administration. These gas prices are the result of the war with Iran. If you're going to blame Biden for Iran, then you have to include every president since the overthrow of the Shah. That includes Trump.
You kinda have to give some blame to Biden for Iran. He did help them to stabilize enough to grow stronger while Iran continued supporting terrorism.

The problem with Trump with Iran is he walks loudly and carries no stick.

As many times Trump has given deadlines or else, extended the deadline, extended it again, agreed to a ceasefire that never held, threatened with a deadline.... rinse and repeat...Iran would be foolish to take him seriously.

I do not think most Americans take him seriously anymore when it comes to Iran. All those things he said he would destroy in four days if Iran did not comply are still there, and it has been a couple of months.
 

Conan

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This is one Liberal interviewing another liberal and not watching the entire back scratch session I believe something stopped them just shoer of a broken arm.
That's not true at all. They are conservative Christians. Both used to be the biggest Trump supporters on this planet. McGregor always praised Trump and pointed out the wrong doing of the Democrats. He worked directly for Trump in his first Administration. Trump tried to make him ambassador to Germany or Poland (I forgot which) but the military industrial complex shot it down. To call Colonel's Davis or McGregor liberals is not telling the truth.
 

canadyjd

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September 11th was made for you to go to war with People from the Middle East. The highjackers were all from Saudi Arabia. We did not attack Saudi Arabia but Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and now Iran. And why was the Former Head of Al Quida shaking hands with Trump in the White House canadyjd? Because the terrorist fought for us in Syria. They worked for the United States Government in Syria.
Well there you have it. Everything is a conspiracy, all attacks home and abroad are organized by some elite ruling class that fuels the war machine bringing profits to the billionaires.

Man, I am so glad you figured that out before it’s too late.

(I’m being sarcastic, just in case you missed it)

I’ll leave you to your delusions

Peace to you
 

Conan

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Well there you have it. Everything is a conspiracy, all attacks home and abroad are organized by some elite ruling class that fuels the war machine bringing profits to the billionaires.

Man, I am so glad you figured that out before it’s too late.

(I’m being sarcastic, just in case you missed it)

I’ll leave you to your delusions

Peace to you
You have never even heard of the industrial military complex that Eisenhower warned us about. I'll bet you think George Soros helps people. I'll bet you think the CIA works for you, or is here to protect you. I'll bet you don't even know that Biden Obama Clinton Bush and Trump has lied to you before. I'll bet you still think Sadam Husien of Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and if Trump said so for another war you would once again fall for it. I'll bet you are so brainwashed you don't think the Soviet Union destroyed Hitler. I'll bet you think COVID 19 was created by nature and not a lab. I'll bet you do not know that the CIA experimented on people with LSD including the unibomber. I will bet you still don't know the Gulf of Tonkin incident was not true. I am not trying to be mean to you. At some point you have to open your eyes and quit believing the narrative written for you by FOX CNN and BBC.
 
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Foxmeister

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You kinda have to give some blame to Biden for Iran. He did help them to stabilize enough to grow stronger while Iran continued supporting terrorism.

The problem with Trump with Iran is he walks loudly and carries no stick.

As many times Trump has given deadlines or else, extended the deadline, extended it again, agreed to a ceasefire that never held, threatened with a deadline.... rinse and repeat...Iran would be foolish to take him seriously.

I do not think most Americans take him seriously anymore when it comes to Iran. All those things he said he would destroy in four days if Iran did not comply are still there, and it has been a couple of months.
You can't just blame Biden when it comes to Iran. There's plenty of blame to go around; left and right.

Netanyahu knew how to play Trump and it wasn't difficult. Praise Trump all the time and he'll pretty much do what you want. Tick him off and your dirt to him. Billboards all over Israel praising Trump as a defender of Israel. Trump has said if he ran for president in Israel he would win. That's exactly what Netanyahu led him to believe and why Trump believed the false intelligence reporting from Israel on Iran.

This war and the adverse effects it's causing our country have set the Democrats up for a big win this November.
 

JonC

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Moderator
You can't just blame Biden when it comes to Iran. There's plenty of blame to go around; left and right.
We can definitely blame Biden, but yes, not only Biden. If it were not for Biden we probably would not have entered a conflict with Iran (although "a" conflict was needed, we did not engage Iran because it sponsors terrorism). We engaged Iran because of Biden's nuclear policy with the country.

Biden sought to return to the 2015 accord. Not only did Biden fail, but to appease Iran he eased sanctions and released funding (between a deal to swap prisiiners and ease sanctions Biden released $16 billion).

This directly led to the current conflict. Biden tried, failed, and to de-escalate met Iran's demands. And Iran continued expanding its enriched uranium stockpiles, reducing International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) oversight, and shortening its nuclear breakout time.

I am not saying that Trump is doing any better, but what we are dealing with now is Biden's fault (not Iran continuing to expand its enriched uranium stockpiles, they were doing that with or without Biden, but Biden provided resources Iran needed to strengthen its terrorism program).

What Biden did was reverse rhe pressure and sanctions Trump had implemented during his first term. Biden was very wrong, but it was politics. It eased tentions (whole strengthening terrorism) to avoid conflict during his administration as the DNC would otherwise be on shakey ground when his term ended. What Biden did was a political move at the expense of lives.

But again, Trump is failing at the task as well (for the same reason - politics). He is now all talk.
 
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